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Atheism vs a belief in God This is just an extension of my thoughts after Puzzle's posts. Atheism is a belief system, it can be as one eyed as any radical religion. It refuses to accept there is a God even when millions of people have had an encounter with Him. They discount this because it does not suit them to belive it. It is the "cult of evolutionists." In many ways it is evil, look at communist countries that torture and kill people that dont believe in atheism. What's the difference between them and Isis or any other fanatical bunch? Nothing. They kill anyone who does not believe like they do. They are more than atheists, they are radical “anti theists.” Agnostics are more honest. They believe in the possibility of a God, just want proof in their eyes. Mind you some say even if there is a God they are not interested but many also say God is unknowable. There are varying veiws within the Agnostic frame work. Some atheists are reasonable and can discuss their belief sensibly, others are just like religious zealots who just want to attack another just because they dont think the same. Their hate oozes out of them. Does this make an atheist better than anyone else? Some scientists have a religious belief, others have an atheistic belief. But athiesm is still a faith, in a sense it's like a religion. An anti God one. It is unscientific to rule out the possibliity of a God. Just because an atheist has not had a spiritual experience or met with God doesnt mean He doesnt exist. I think atheists are in the minority. Just as an aside thought, Russia relaxed its anti religious laws years back, for a long time they had tortured and killed Christians, put them in the salt mines etc. Why did it relax the laws? The Bible says in the last days the anti christ will want to be worshipped as god, to allow worship atheism has to be abolished and given a descent time frame be forgotten. It's a possibility....... In China religions are growing as well, but a lot is still underground. People are looking for answers that atheism just can not supply. Back onto the topic, interesting quote I heard once. "The unbeliever must believe the unbelievable to maintain his/her unbelief. It takes more faith to be an atheist than a believer in God." I dont hate atheists at all, just feel sorry for them as I know what they are missing out on. May God bless the unenlightened with enlightenment. That's my prayer.  Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there. |
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8/9/2015 7:39 am |
Hi Hermit: Interesting blog. I really like the last two sentences a lot and think that all Christians should feel that way. Being a non-believer in god doesn't necessarily make someone a bad person. I don't believe in a god myself and don't even have any hope of believing either because all attempts at religious instruction have failed. Not only failed, they made me more of a non-believer.
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Hi Hermit: Interesting blog. I really like the last two sentences a lot and think that all Christians should feel that way. Being a non-believer in god doesn't necessarily make someone a bad person. I don't believe in a god myself and don't even have any hope of believing either because all attempts at religious instruction have failed. Not only failed, they made me more of a non-believer. That's true, there are plenty of people who do good in the world, and I wont condemn you for your veiws. You are just different in what you think. I actually like your comment because you have not attacked at all, just stated your view honestly and I really respect that. Your experience is your experience. Thanks for sharing. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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8/9/2015 10:54 am |
Being a follower of a spiritual belief system that precedes written history and has been truly persecuted by most "religions" for centuries I would add that there must be something to a belief in a higher power for it to have survived for the history of mankind. The whats, hows and whys remain up to what the individual understands and is comfortable with. I have never seen a conflict between science and spirituality. Spiritually, like love, is an emotion . It is felt. It is the what. Science is thought. It is the how .. Like all things in nature the spiritual world goes on with or without our belief or input. It just is. Most humans are to fearful and need to have some sense of understanding, control and organization, thus a proliferation of religions, rules and structures including atheism. Like mrsjoe I have many friends, in fact most of my friends, who believe differently. I do include them in my practices that others might describe as prayer reasoning that God doesn't need to eat so he / she really doesn't care what flavor the cake is. Spiritwoman ^i^
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Thank you ET. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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I fully expect to be attacked over something, that's normal. But I dont mind if it's with truth. It's sad when it's only insults because they are frustrated because they dont have a real answer. Some people have been hurt by others in a church. I have. Bible says, "Offences will come." But as one pastor put it, "If you dog bit you wyould you kick your wife?" He then said, "Stop kicking God for the hypocrites." The real issue is forgiveness in those instances. Thanks fof you comment. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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I concur.... God bless you! Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Well God is a God of both love and judgement. He's done all He can to keep us out of hell but and that's the love side. Pity people damage others by fear tactics. I think some people in ignorance teach the fire and brimstone (turn or burn) bit and forget the cost of the Cross and the Good Samaritan bit. Many profess to love God, to me a major indicator of that is loving your neighbour. Jesus summed the Scriptures up with those two things. Love God and love your neighbour, not execute, bomb him or blow him up. War mongers have used Christianity in the past as their justification for war, like the Crucades. Can happen with any religion or belief system. People will even die for a cause because they need something to believe in. It's a pity that people resort to 'punishing' another for their belief. I think it's a fear of others being different and they may be secretly terrified of being wrong perhaps? I dont know, safety in numbers mindset? Hmm Evil and cruelty come from the fact we have free will, sadly some choose evil. Others will blame God for all the problems of the world, but it's obviously people that are causing the problems by greed, lust for power, sex etc.Those that are cruel for their belief have no understanding of real love, and that's really what most people are seeking. Thanks for your input. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Thanks for your comment Roxy. I'm honoured you have read it more than once. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Being a follower of a spiritual belief system that precedes written history and has been truly persecuted by most "religions" for centuries I would add that there must be something to a belief in a higher power for it to have survived for the history of mankind. The whats, hows and whys remain up to what the individual understands and is comfortable with. I have never seen a conflict between science and spirituality. Spiritually, like love, is an emotion . It is felt. It is the what. Science is thought. It is the how .. Like all things in nature the spiritual world goes on with or without our belief or input. It just is. Most humans are to fearful and need to have some sense of understanding, control and organization, thus a proliferation of religions, rules and structures including atheism. Like mrsjoe I have many friends, in fact most of my friends, who believe differently. I do include them in my practices that others might describe as prayer reasoning that God doesn't need to eat so he / she really doesn't care what flavor the cake is. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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great post. I echo your thoughts. I find that I am able to tolerate an Atheist, often easier than they can toleratate me. Dan Dee, As a categorical statement that's just not true. almost all Atheist, won't tell you they are an Atheist, Until you throw God into their face and expect them to change. Atheism isn't a religion, Atheism doesn't need converts. Atheists don't tell believers what to believe, until believers try and tell an atheist what to believe. Then they are libel to get both barrels. This whole blog is not about tolerance, it's about converts. you pray for them to be converted and that is tolerance.. Well the one thing we know for sure is that an Atheist is not praying for your conversion to Atheism. By the way. I'm just like ET, agnostic, primarily because I can't believe in religion. I'm not atheist, because I don't believe it's good for the human soul to be one. Yes I believe we have a soul, I just don't believe it's a catholic one, protestant one, hindu one, muslim one, or jewish one. The god that exists to me is totally personal. He is the spark in me that says I am, I love, and I live. I can't share him with you, you need to find him for yourself. That's my religion.
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'May God bless the unenlightened with enlightenment. That's my prayer' - thanks Hermit, as a former practicing Catholic, I can appreciate the meaning behind the message. I can also appreciate Lulu's stance in that Christians often come across as arrogant by telling unbelievers they will pray for them (e.g. enlightenment). I guess it depends to an extent how the message is conveyed as well as the messenger. It is quite a turn off to be bashed over the head by those trying to convert non-believers (or even believers from another denomination). For example 'pushing' Christianity on to those vulnerable is at times seen as a 'victory' by those providing pastoral care as those they minister to often don't have the energy to resist and so acquiesce for the sake of peace. I do believe we should give others space. My love/romantic interest is a Muslim, there is mutual respect and acceptance.
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I believe in God and have no problem at all with those that don't. I very seldom discuss religion to me it's a private matter. Interesting blog
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'May God bless the unenlightened with enlightenment. That's my prayer' - thanks Hermit, as a former practicing Catholic, I can appreciate the meaning behind the message. I can also appreciate Lulu's stance in that Christians often come across as arrogant by telling unbelievers they will pray for them (e.g. enlightenment). I guess it depends to an extent how the message is conveyed as well as the messenger. It is quite a turn off to be bashed over the head by those trying to convert non-believers (or even believers from another denomination). For example 'pushing' Christianity on to those vulnerable is at times seen as a 'victory' by those providing pastoral care as those they minister to often don't have the energy to resist and so acquiesce for the sake of peace. I do believe we should give others space. My love/romantic interest is a Muslim, there is mutual respect and acceptance. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Just thought I'd add this. 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Atheism has a creed. "There is no God" Because God is in it it's a creed, the shortest creed known according to a couple of sites. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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I have many friends who dont believe. They dont call themselvess Athiests, Agnostics or any other titleexcept non-believers. I believe in God,my Redeemer.
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