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Beth1949 75F
3163 posts
12/2/2016 8:49 am

Last Read:
5/23/2018 3:16 am

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON ABORTION

Today, the theme of my blog is about something heartbreaking, that concerns all of us. Because it might or may happen to any of our family members, friends, anyone known or unknown to us even. But it is eventually a sad event. Therefore, I have chosen to post my present blog on "ABORTION". Abortion which is really touchy, a fatality, an act of stopping the development of living body inside the mother's womb. To my own opinion, abortion is equal to murder. Though there are special cases where the parents are obliged or forced to do it for a certain reason, just if the baby/fetus may have a certain defect in its growth, or any medical problems, which may render it handicapped or even stillbirth, the specialist Dr, advice to have it done BUT for any normal pregnancy, which is still going well in the womb of the mother, WHAT is the need to abort the baby?? Why hadn't the parents taken all precaution before, by using the medical method to avoid pregnancy?? After the pregnancy's confirmed and going well, why do they chose abortion?? None can say they aren't aware of the probable result after sexual intercourse!! Specially if the pair isn't sterile and didn't take any precaution!!. It's crazy!! Whatever maybe their status, their financial situation, their culture or religion, their family influence and so on, ABORTION is a disgrace, even done secretly, it's an act of murder, which can never be relieved from one's mind forever. " The conscious retains all of one's deeds and won't erase it".

There are many ways for after the birth for those unwanted babies, there is ADOPTION, CONVENT, RELIGIOUS HOMES, and most of all PEOPLE WHO ARE EAGERLY LOOKING FOR BABIES TO BRING THEM UP AS ONE'S OWN . So, ABORTION is never the only solution. IT IS JUST A HEARTLESS DREADFUL ACT ACT FOR THOSE WHO FIND IT AS THE SOLE SOLUTION. MURDER CAN BE BY ANY MEANS, BY HARMFUL WEAPONS AND BY ABORTION INSTRUMENTS AND TOOLS.

Here is a baby's view on ABORTION.

"You shouldn't worry now Mommy, I'm safe. I'm in heaven with the angels now. They love me, cuddle me, smile and talk to me. They told me what you did, and they said it's called an abortion. Why, Mommy? Why did you do it? Don't you love me any more? Why did you get rid of me? I'm really sorry if I did something wrong to you. I love you, Mommy! I love you with all of my heart. Why didn't you love me? What did I do to deserve what they did to me? I wanted to live, Mommy! It really hurts to see you didn't care about me and wanted me to die. Didn't I love you enough? Please, why did you do that harm to me Mommy! I wanted to live, to smile and to watch the clouds, to see your face, to touch you and to kiss you and to grow up as your baby, your , mommy. But you had chosen to kill me before you even my small face, I am now happy with the angels, they don't hurt me, they love me. I pray God to forgive you for what you have done to me mommy, I still love you and I will miss you forever, my real mommy".

Thank you for your read, for your feelings and for your perception on such cases. Please, kindly share your views on it. Thanks again.
I wish all of you a wonderful weekend with all of yours.
Lisa,












Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 9:00 am

It really pains me thinking and viewing the dreadful acts of abortion, as these above photos describe it. I wouldn't have heart doing it. .


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 10:26 am

Fossil hi,

I appreciate very much your point of view on this subject which a crucial one, concerning the life of unborn babies. It really disgusts me, each time I read of one doing abortion. I feel for that unborn, who is innocent and didn't ask to be conceived. I always ask myself how these women can have the heart to do such murder while knowing already that it is it. Thanks again Fossil.
I wish you and your wife a very happy weekend.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 10:31 am

Bigblock hi and welcome to my blog,

It's my great pleasure welcoming you for the first time on this blog of mine, Bigblock and am so delighted for your kind participation on such a topic. You are so right, it's a murder as I myself call it and moreover it's so dreadful for a mother to do it while her pregnancy is normal. Well, such person shouldn't be considered as a mother really. Thanks again Bigblock, i hope reading from you again on my blog. Have a nice weekend with all of yours. My kind regards to all of you.
Lisa,


spiritwoman45

12/2/2016 10:41 am

Definitely not something I would have ever considered for myself but I will always respect and even protect to the best of my ability each individual's rights and abilities to decide for themselves. The best way to prevent abortion is to educate our daughters and granddaughters about it and support them should they experience an unplanned pregnancy.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 10:44 am

Deborahsu dear, hi,

You are warmly welcome on my blogs Deborah and am so happy reading from you on this subject. I congratulate your niece, a beautiful heartfelt mother as she was so right not to accept that silly abortion at that time. I imagine that the Dr, was completely wrong in her case And I wonder if she would have accepted to abort that innocent child, how would she be feeling after!! A deep regret on her conscious would it has been, Deborah and a painful memory which she wouldn't be able to rid off. Though, ourselves on this site now, we cannot expect any pregnancy at our age but may this blog open up the eyes of the younger ones and may they think twice before deciding such awful act. Thanks again Deborah for your input, I appreciate it so much. Have a wonderful weekend and always praise your kind niece for her remarkable decision. God bless you all of you.
Lisa,


bijou624

12/2/2016 10:49 am

Hi Lisa: Informative blog and pics. I agree with Skariff. I can see both sides of the issue, but there are many reasons (physical, mental, emotional, age, financial, r*pe, etc etc) that a woman may not want to or be able to put a hold on her life and carry a fetus for nine months, go through labour, or take care of another human being for a couple of decades.

To me an unwanted pregnancy is a very difficult life changing decision for the woman, and must be made only by the woman and her doctor. Every case is different.


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 11:01 am

Skariff hi and welcome,

Am so pleased reading from you on this blog of mine. you are most welcome Skariff and I appreciate your opinion and your entire comments on here. I have read you them with keen attention and I would say that you are perfectly right on your explained point of view as above. There should be a decree for all those in expectant mothers and also a Counselor to attend to them. I believe there should be such person in a position to do it right in your country, just as we have those here in mine. Maybe these would help reducing abortion. Thanks again Skariff, I do appreciate your kind visit as well. Hope reading from you again in the future. Kind regards. Have a wonderful weekend with all your family.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 11:27 am

Spiritwoman hi and welcome back,

I am delighted for your visit as since long I hadn't read from you. It's really a nice topic to debate on. And each one has his right too. Of course, we as elders, we do our best to protect our kin,, we also advice them too. Abortion is just a murder Spirit, except when the baby is in a real danger for his growth in the womb of the mother, if he has really a certain medical incurable problem which should be well defined and confirmed by Drs, then I would say and agree that it is their right but not for such drastic decision to abort a well growing baby in the womb. Some of the Drs, may have a wrong diagnostic also, it may happen. But to take it just as the right for the mother to do anything with an innocent unborn baby who didn't even ask to be conceived, who doesn't know what is happening and being planned already for his life, this is unfortunately not the right of the mother. These mothers are not deciding for themselves only but they are also deciding for a life which cannot protect himself against such decision. An innocent life which cannot defend himself too. The baby also has its right eventually. These mothers should be educated on planning a pregnancy and to understand that the unborn baby has also its right just as any human being. Thanks Spirit for your thoughts, I wish you and all of yours a pleasant weekend.
Lisa,


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 11:35 am

No matter what pro-life people say.

almost everyone is anti-abortion.

For me, I first understand that no one will ever make a law that will force me to approve or having an abortion.

As I see myself, there are difficult but acceptable reasons for a person to have an abortion, For example the life of the mother, or or sexual assault and too a lesser degree even the health of the fetus. These COULD all be acceptable reasons for me to consider an abortion.

Those reasons are my choice. The question becomes is MY choice the only acceptable choices for everyone, and will Laws prevent my acceptable choices.

The two reason I am pro-choice. First to protect my own personal choices, and second to not assume that My personal choices are the only ones. I credit almost all people with difficulty of such a decision, and as such respect almost all people enough to allow them their choice, as I would want other people to respect my choice.


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 11:53 am

Bijou dear, hi,

Am so glad as usual for your visit and your but comments which I thank you so much for. I would still stress on:
A-- If the unborn baby has a severe incurable medical problem and would be at rick in the woman's womb, then she may decide with her Dr's advice on conformation of the case, to abort the baby.
B-- As for Physical, mental, financial or r**pe issues, once if the baby is healthy, she can still carry the pregnancy to term, then Dr's have their own ways to help her delivering the baby. After which the mother or parents can decide either to keep the child or to give him for adoption according to their situation. But why doing an abortion in these cases when there are other solution to consider ? All these issues in B, doesn't give the mother the right to abort her baby because the baby also has his right too!! After all, the woman should know the consequences of conceiving a child at first.
Even in a case of r**pe, the baby has his right to live, then after his birth his parents can decide for his future by other solution except abortion. An unwanted pregnancy should be well thought about beforehand. Thank you again Bijou and have a nice weekend with all your family.
Lisa,


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 11:57 am

    Quoting spiritwoman45:
    Definitely not something I would have ever considered for myself but I will always respect and even protect to the best of my ability each individual's rights and abilities to decide for themselves. The best way to prevent abortion is to educate our daughters and granddaughters about it and support them should they experience an unplanned pregnancy.
very good answer


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 12:10 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Do you also respect the rights of the unborn child being torn apart in the images above?

    And Bijou, you think it is a decision to be made between a woman and her doctor/ Shouldn't the father be in the discussion at some point?

    Fossil

" Shouldn't the father be in the discussion at some point?"

I certainly agree, but I do have problem with your other statements and then YOU saying it, like it really matters

The will of the father is certainly important. But what if that will, is different than yours? Does he have the right then.

Do you consider yourself as the father of all children?
A farther in regards to decisions but not responsibility?


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 12:23 pm

Jimmy, hi and welcome,

Thank you for your visit and comments. As I have stated in my above responses, everyone has his/her right but doesn't the unborn innocent and a healthy growing baby has its right too? If we grown up people have our right, why not the baby? Doesn't his life have any importance just as ours? Thank you again Jimmy, I wish you a pleasant weekend. Kind regards.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 12:36 pm

Jimmy hi again,

Another of my perception, it is not only my own consideration but I do believe that abortion is a everyone's concern, it is a general self opinion or choice. But doesn't the unborn baby has his right also to decide for his life? Or is it because he has been conceived not by his own will or choice but by the unthoughtful parents?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 12:38 pm

    Quoting Beth1949:
    Bijou dear, hi,

    Am so glad as usual for your visit and your but comments which I thank you so much for. I would still stress on:
    A-- If the unborn baby has a severe incurable medical problem and would be at rick in the woman's womb, then she may decide with her Dr's advice on conformation of the case, to abort the baby.
    B-- As for Physical, mental, financial or r**pe issues, once if the baby is healthy, she can still carry the pregnancy to term, then Dr's have their own ways to help her delivering the baby. After which the mother or parents can decide either to keep the child or to give him for adoption according to their situation. But why doing an abortion in these cases when there are other solution to consider ? All these issues in B, doesn't give the mother the right to abort her baby because the baby also has his right too!! After all, the woman should know the consequences of conceiving a child at first.
    Even in a case of r**pe, the baby has his right to live, then after his birth his parents can decide for his future by other solution except abortion. An unwanted pregnancy should be well thought about beforehand. Thank you again Bijou and have a nice weekend with all your family.
    Lisa,


I respect you opinion greatly.

I respect all pro-lifers, who are consistent in their beliefs.
Your ideas in regard, to r*pe, is the only acceptable position a pro-life person can have.
I am not pro-life, not because I fault that decision, I just disagree with it for me.

In my opinion any so-called pro-life person who would consider it acceptable to have an abortion because of r*pe, are not really pro-life.

I have asked many pro-life men if their daughter was r*ped, would they consider an abortion acceptable. I think when confronted with that issue they see the amount of self sacrifice and the sacrifice their loved ones have to make as overwhelming, compared to the life of the baby. I found most of them not to be pro-life.


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 12:53 pm

Skariff hi again,

Just a clarification, I am not an activist but I just wwnatd a blog on abortion and stated my opinion on the matter. I would add here that the couple who made the child did not also think of the consequences during or after the conception.
If the couple themselves did not care, would the Drs care about the abortion, as long as they are paid for it? What would happen to the new life should have really been considered and thought of by the couple first of all!!. But not just get rid of the poor baby by abortion which seems to be their only solution!!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 1:05 pm

    Quoting Beth1949:
    Jimmy hi again,

    Another of my perception, it is not only my own consideration but I do believe that abortion is a everyone's concern, it is a general self opinion or choice. But doesn't the unborn baby has his right also to decide for his life? Or is it because he has been conceived not by his own will or choice but by the unthoughtful parents?
Hi again,

There some other issues that are inconsistent logic, not from you, but others who claim to agree with you.

There are birth control issue, that are inconsistent with your position.

The issue of unthoughtful parents. As a criteria, it doesn't fit. How many unthoughtful parents do give birth and have a child? Being a thoughtful parent is not the criteria against abortion.

There are way too many abortion, we can agree to that. There are selfish thoughtless people all around. The criteria of abortion for them is to get away and be selfish and thoughtless. Having a child for those kind of people must be weighed, as the parents problem is so significant, I doubt, their "problem" would just be left at the adoption center. No matter what, at term, they would still have control.

Sometimes we just got to let, the bad do the bad, or even the good do the bad. All we actually can do is be good and do good, and praise those who join us.


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
12/2/2016 4:33 pm

Given a choice between being born into poverty while the government cuts off any welfare or other government assistance for my upbringing, ,,,,,,,,, OR, ,,,,, being aborted?

Fortunately that question was never posed to me at the time, but I'm certain I'd still choose a life of poverty over death.

I'd choose life as a cripple over death too. And I don't recall ever being asked, but I think many of you folks who know me would agree that I must have chosen life with a mental handicap. But if that's not why I am the way I am, I'd still choose life mentally handicapped over death.

Death never made a baby healthy, rich, or smart, so I'm disinclined to see how abortion can solve any of those problems.

So I think the fetus should get a choice. After all, it's not their fault someone is in a difficult predicament. No future child still in the womb asked to be conceived, but since they are alive through no fault of their own, NOBODY should have the right to murder them.

GBU all,

Gavin


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/2/2016 5:37 pm

There are so many other issue where the premises here apply, that no one deals with, with the same vigor. In fact the hypocrisy of so called pro-life people, is evident even here. oh heck especially here. (Beth I am not including you, but virtually everyone else here, who supports you)

Think about it...

capital punishment
collateral damage from wars.
famine,
natural disasters,
exposure,
toxicity
even healthcare, healthcare applies just as much.

let's not even bring up the potential from global warming,

it all too easy for these people, when they are not on the line, when they don't have to go out of their way, When they just get to be decision makers and not doers.

We let people die........ oh too bad you say, that's the way it is..


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 11:18 pm

Hi again Fossil,

Thank you so much for your second post in response to Bijou. I am not a one side but I opine that the father should have his say or opinion too, he should be also involved in such discussion also and his opinion should also be considered. It's not only a mother's choice, unless in other cases where the father has disappeared in the nature. But between a natural couple, the father should be involved in such decision for sure. It's my own opinion of course.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/2/2016 11:34 pm

Karin dear hi,

Am glad for your participation in the debate on the abortion case. And in reply to Skariff. Your input has enlarged our knowledge and different opinion which I respect, on the matter. Thanks again dear Karin. Have a happy weekend with all of yours. My kind regards.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/3/2016 12:47 am

Jimmy hi once more,

I think that the father should have his say of course, if both agree for to have it done, it's their own choice but not considered their own right only. What about if the mother is for it and the father is against? Thanks for your input Jimmy.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/3/2016 12:51 am

Karin dear,

You are right , our children and grand should be educated well ahead, so that they are aware of the implications involved in it. Thanks again dear.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/3/2016 12:57 am

Again Karin dear,

I have above mentioned such cases also. And it's not of course a matter of the woman with only her Dr. even if the child has been conceived in a r**pe case, once he is healthy and has no medical issues, he has the right to live as he didn't ask to be neither conceived nor to be aborted. My own opinion for sure.
Lisa,


Beth1949 75F
2715 posts
12/3/2016 1:00 am

Fossil lol,

I do appreciate greatly you input and your factual opinion as well as I respect others too. Thank you again for your reasons.
Lisa,