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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/25/2015 5:17 pm

Adolpho,

You're scary! I honestly don't know who I'm more afraid of. the right wing nuts or the left wing nut crackers!

Those that feel they need to prove themselves not to be racist don't think of themselves to be racist, no matter what you think.. Those that are racists keep their mouth shut.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/26/2015 1:27 pm

I think anyone is scary, who refuses to see the other side or alternatives.
Your posts in discussions about racism do not show a side that would be tolerant of those who you assume are racists when they may not be. You paint the broad brush much like others we know do. I have always believed that conservatives tend to find the exception that breaks the rule...to break the rule, and liberals tend to take the rule without exception. You do nothing that combats rascism, Those who are on the fence that you would like to pull to your side, only get pushed. You do not tolerate rascism from whites, but tolerate racism that stems from other races. I think to solve the racial issue, there can be no difference.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/26/2015 1:33 pm

Racists never keep their mouths shut...and those two don't.

leaf,

read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. Racists who defend themselves not to be racists DO NOT THINK OF THEMSELVES AS RACIST.
One plus one is two.......
It's like grade school, you can read and understand at the same time.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/27/2015 6:00 am

Racism is such a hot button for you that I wonder why you are so sensitive to it. Have you ever considered why?
Adolpho.

It must be because I'm a racist!
I say the same things over and over and don't hear me. I do not judge the topic, just the way people respond to it. My own opinions are my opinion, I do not wish to persuade others to my side, I want them to re evaluate their side.Your expressed ideas about racism are too far out there. All you see is racism. Of course you're not wrong in every instance, but in my opinion you're not right in every instance either. You're blinded by it.
To take some fact, like a black man is twenty times more likely to be shot by the police than a white person, and without any other consideration believe that 19 of those black people were shot by a racism cop in a racist society. Some here will say you're wrong and none were a result of racism. I'll give you one or two if you give me that all 19 were shot by racists.
One or two is bad enough , you don't need to make it worse than it really is.
I didn't say you think racism from other race doesn't exist...I said you tolerate it. If you want to put words in mouth, at least try and be accurate.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/27/2015 7:40 pm

Adolpho...Hitme

Of course, I am a racist.... there you happy now.. someone said it. so it must be true... You are scary, much more so than those you are afraid of...
things just don't matter to you, only you matter. You are a hypocrite, narrowminded, and pretentious. God, I dislike people who prove the right wing nuts right.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/27/2015 10:32 pm

Adolpho,

I have tried to fall on the side of reason. Certainly the right here has little reason and a lot of agenda. I battle them to reason. If they want to call me a liberal, an Obama lover, un-American, so be it. I don't care what a person, without reason, calls me.
Leaf is pretty far out there, at first, I found him amusing. giving a little back to those without reason. he too, is somewhat focus, but in the overall picture I don't think, on most things, he takes himself too seriously. He likes the play
You want to call me a racist.. go ahead...you are without reason. You are scary, because, like the right your agenda overwhelms your reason. I don't want to argue with you about racism..it is, what it is Not more because you think it needs to be, and not less because the right doesn't want to have to deal with. You are scary because even if the right may not make things better... I am certain you are making things worse. you can't see it...and that's scary.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/27/2015 10:48 pm

Do you deny that the predominant thought of law enforcement in that community is in some measure racist?

Dont' you see what you say.... I disagree with the above statement. it's stupid, it prejudiced, it doesn't even make sense.

How can a predominate thought be just in some measure.
I disagree, it's a predominate thought....I think their lives may be little more predominate
Some measure, I can buy into,... but not all law enforcement to some degree
The word predominate.....shows where you're at, no changing that.....you can keep that thought , but may I suggest you keep it's stupidity to yourself.
by the way . if I'm going to say your right then.Obama's must be a filthy liar too......
some people are just like you and never get the picture.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/27/2015 11:17 pm

Adolpho,

Your questions don't bother me...your responses do.
I do not have an agenda about racism
Does racism exist? ......yes
Can I do something about?....yes
what can I do?.....look in the mirror
Geez.. this isn't a political or legal matter, it's society..
What do you want to do.. make a law.. you're.too late already done.
Throw white people who look crossed eye into jail...wont happen.
Let blacks who commit crime, off the hook, because they're black .
Let eighty percent of the black population in prison go free, because their crimes weren't theirs but our racist society's..
Sentence every white police officer who shoots a black man to prison?
What the hell do you want......tell us please... what do you want?
If you want to change society, you can't...It can only start with white mothers and white fathers and the black mothers and blacks fathers, Our schools can help..It not about your beat down of the rest of us. It's about knowledge and education of which...from what you have expressed, shows very little.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/28/2015 10:09 am

You are attempting to have me come around to your point of view and that won't happen because I prefer to live in a world of reality...not some self constructed utopia that is not factually supported.
adolpho,

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, can believe what you want.. If you don't want to see some of the repercussions of what you do with that belief. then that's fine too., go ahead...But don't tell me something different, or what I do believe, or what I should believe. Don't assime you know the motivation of why I do what I do. because you don't...labeling people as racists is almost as bad as being racist. We know people who label around here and you have joined their club.... You don't get it..That's okay, I wouldn't expect you to.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/28/2015 2:12 pm

It appears to me that you want to say that "yes there is racism of whites directed toward blacks but there is really no problem because blacks also are racist toward whites
adolpho,

your nuts... that not what I said and that's not what I mean.. Your doing it again. I do not defend racism, for any reason. But I would never accuse a policemen because he's white for shooting a black man or any other color for that matter, as racists, or racially motivated.. without knowing the facts. I cannot think that way. That doesn't mean it isn't possible, I'm just not going to jump there until I know the facts. You believe that Michael Browns death was racially motivated...I say I don't know. you say I'm unrealistic.. How can you not see what I saying? you can believe it, if you want, but you don't want me to believe what I know......which is I don't know...you want to make me know....It ain't going to happen, in fact you will make me find reasons not to. When it doesn't happen, you will label me, tell me I have some problem. When the right talks about Obama, he's a liar, he's bringing the country down, he the worst president. when I look to determine if I believe them, I only find reasons not to. They think i'm unrealistic too.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/29/2015 5:48 am

adolpho,

okay, first the subject of the blog is racism... second your responses to others here and to me,after I wrote, were contentious. At first I was upset about you labeling almost anybody on the right as racist. secondly, I was upset that, because I disagree with you wanted to label me. Third, and most important, is I am now upset that I have wasted my time. I just wanted you to reconsider calling other people racists, just because of what they write in a blog, I don't see your point in doing it, other than racism to you is "black and white".


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/29/2015 6:21 am

Not always . When they feel a few people are around who are like minded they tend to let their guard down and show their true colours .

Maggie,

Sorry to have hijack the blog....I agree with your statement above, but that place isn't here in open blogs.
But what I have discovered about this particular place is disagreement and innuendo, has many colors...motivation purpose, design and misinterpretation, Saying something that disagrees, is almost always taken as support of the other side. Someone here cannot disagree and not be labeled. Innuendo, is almost always misinterpreted to mean a harsh choosen reality, when in fact it is something else. I spent about six blogs with Adolpho, wasting my time to prove that point.. The fact is I rarely consider the content of a political blog, I don't have strong beliefs either way and I'm not easily convinced. I tend to look more at why people say what they say, instead of what they say. I don't find much difference in the right and in the left in that regards. For the most part I have fought with the Right in regards to that, I dislike it when the left validates what the Right is doing, by doing the same thing. The right batters Leaf, he likes it, It proves his point, he let's them prove his point. The farther out he goes the more he brings them out.. Aldopho on the other hand, has an agenda, like the right has and agenda. He uses the same techniques as they do. To me... that's scary
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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/29/2015 6:43 am

Maggie,

I don't take my interpretation lightly. I don't jump to conclusions. I do my best to see an overall picture. Still, it's just my opinion, that I'm sharing. I let those I speak to, to see if it's accurate or not. I have no agenda, other than to let people see a POSSIBILITY of what they are doing.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/29/2015 9:29 pm

Why do you do things like that Jiminy?

Aldolpho

Like what? let me say this for the last time....my comments to you aren't about racism ( I use racism to show what you do, I don't talk about racism..you do).....I talk about you...you don't get it...that's okay. I don't care anymore..... How you treat others?, How you make assumptions? How you don't see alternative points of view? .. You have managed to now do to me what you do to others. That's okay too. I can take it or leave it.
I said you were scary... I guess that upsets you, so much to the point that you have now proven it.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/31/2015 6:37 am

I identified one person as "overtly racist" Just so we are clear on that point.

There you did it again....

My interpretration......one person is overly racist and the rest are just
racist.

I stand by my re-quote from you, I'm not running away from it.

This conversation reminds me so much of those I have had with the right....and that alone is scary.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/31/2015 1:11 pm

Maisie,

Don't do this to me......I hate to have to reevaluate my previous conclusions. don't tell me, you got some of what I said. Just when I was beginning to think............

I can hear...the left now.......Satan loves him! LOL


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
8/31/2015 1:46 pm

Maisie,

Something is better than nothing!

I should know you adhere to the saying, that my enemies enemy, is less of an enemy than my real enemy

So now, I gotta figure out if you're just using me.

That's okay...I'll take what I can get!