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1gasilverhead2 83M
4003 posts
8/2/2015 7:43 am

Check the cities who have the most stringent gun laws and feel you will find they have the most murders and gun injuries.

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frenchsalsa2 77F
7809 posts
8/2/2015 3:45 pm

I am also a Canadian and I live in Canada's largest city. I do not agree with 1ga on his response. We in Canada do NOT have the most murders and gun injuries per se!!!


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
8/3/2015 1:12 am

Maybe I'm out of touch but to my knowledge there hasn't been an increase in violent gun crime rates. I'm not in possession of a firearm and apart from taking security measures, I generally feel safe. I live alone in outer suburbia, don't have a dog, a high fence surrounds the property and sensor lights are strategically positioned. I sleep well at night. If I lived/spent much time travelling in a remote area I would ensure I had a firearm for self-protection as I had done in past (had .22 semi-automatic) - there were two occasions I was thankful I had. My sense of self-preservation is fairly strong.

I found some information on the internet which contradicts your concerns re increase of gun violence in Australia - the statistics in the first section are perhaps from the same source you quoted.

In 1996 Australia passed the National Firearms Agreement (NFA) which greatly restricted the option to legally own some types of guns by private citizens.

The activist site, World Public Union claims that crime is on the rise in Australia since then.

Since Australia banned semiautomatic rifles, shotguns and pump action shotguns the gun crime rates have skyrocketed throughout the country.

Murders committed with guns increased by 19%.

Home invasions increased by 21%.

Assaults committed with guns increased by 28%.

Armed robberies skyrocketed with an increase of 69%.

It cites no sources.

Have crime rates been on the rise in Australia since 1996?

Below is a chart from the annual Australian crime stats report for murders — the short version: murders have fallen 10% just since 2006 and that is raw numbers. Overall murders on annual basis have dropped almost 25% since the late 1990s gun ban.

From page 16 of the 2011 Australian Crimes Statistics Report.

Australia did see an increase in violent crime during the 1990s which levelled off after 2001, with exception to a slight rise from 2005-2007.

Australia did see an increase in violent crime during the 1990s which levelled off after 2001, with exception to a slight rise from 2005-2007.

This chart is from page 6 of the 2011 Australian Crime Statistics Report.

In the latter case, it should be noted that the Australia-wide percentage of homicides committed with firearms is now lower than it was before the gun buy-back program, and lower than it has been at any point during the past ten years. (In the former case, the absolute number of firearm homicides in Australia in 1998-99 was the lowest in the past ten years.)

Other claims offered here, such as the statement that "While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months" and "There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly" are even more difficult to evaluate, because they don't offer any figures or standards of measurement at all. Do they deal with absolute numbers, or percentages? Do they reflect all incidents of crime, or only those committed with firearms? How much of an increase constitutes a "dramatic" increase? According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the proportion of armed robberies involving firearms has actually declined over the last several years:

1995 - 27.8%

1996 - 25.3%

1997 - 24.1%

1998 - 17.6%

1999 - 15.2%

2000 - 14.0%


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
8/3/2015 2:29 am

Sorry if the last two paragraphs don't make much sense - they were in response to a questionable letter from Australian police officer who commented on Australia's rising crime rate (Snopes). Not part of page 6 'Australian Crime Statistics Report 2011'.


Rentier1

8/3/2015 5:50 am

    Quoting 1gasilverhead2:
    Check the cities who have the most stringent gun laws and feel you will find they have the most murders and gun injuries.
And why do you think that is the case?