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Unsafe_Sax_54 69M
1228 posts
1/31/2015 8:09 am
PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC POSTS MORE LIES AND HATE!


Actually, this post applies to any day leafie spews up more drivel.......

lilium6 74F
4498 posts
1/31/2015 1:01 pm

such not charming sentiments expressed towards the man (leaftreat)


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
1/31/2015 2:44 pm

It seems that some people let their personal hatred and vitriol blind them to the fact that the original blog was simply a repost of a Reuters report.

I am with Lilium when I deplore the way in which vindictive personal attacks seem to have taken the place of well argued commentary. If you disagree with someone then surely you should set out your reasons for disagreeing in a reasonable and sensible manner. Comments about mental illness, questioning someone's manhood, calling people clowns, cretins and A*holes is not argument, it is simply invective and demeans the person uttering the invective much more than it does the target of such.

" American Sniper will likely be the most controversial and divisive movie of 2015, and it's (still only) mid-January. From concerns over the baldly anti-Muslim social-media rants it has inspired to titular real-life protagonist Chris Kyle's debatable status as a hero to his notorious unreliability as a non-fiction narrator to the confusing use of a robot doll rather than a human baby, the film has inspired both harsh criticism and lavish praise. It has also smashed box-office records, largely thanks to the conservative-leaning South and Midwest. You either love this movie or you hate it, and by extension director Clint Eastwood, star Bradley Cooper, and especially Kyle himself; there isn't much room for dialogue between the two positions.

Personally, though, I found the movie to be factually probable, visually and emotionally stimulating, but curiously aimless: like walking in a shallow pool looking for a place to dive and swim, expecting depth and finding none. I found the audience's reaction both inspiring and depressing. On the one hand, Thank god people are finally responding to the horror of war. On the other hand, This is not quite true."

The appraisal above will either infuriate those who regard Kyle as a modern day saint or give pause for thought to those who wish to reflect on the horrors perpetrated in our name during wars. I would simply hope it inspires people to examine their own feelings about the way in which the main character is portrayed and some of the reactions to this portrayal.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
1/31/2015 3:02 pm

“When you think yours is the only true path you forever chain yourself to judging others and narrow the vision of God. The road to righteousness and arrogance is a parallel road that can intersect each other several times throughout a person's life. It’s often hard to recognize one road from another. What makes them different is the road to righteousness is paved with the love of humanity. The road to arrogance is paved with the love of self.”
― Shannon L. Alder


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
1/31/2015 3:52 pm

Thanks bond - I haven't as yet seen the film and your assessment intrigues, quote: 'Personally, though, I found the movie to be factually probable, visually and emotionally stimulating, but curiously aimless: like walking in a shallow pool looking for a place to dive and swim, expecting depth and finding none'. I'll make a point of viewing it this week, it would I imagine give much pause for thought.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
1/31/2015 3:59 pm

Not my assessment Lilium. It comes from a review by a US army vet (Adrian Bonenberger) with two postings to Iraq and Afghanistan to his name. He writes for the concourse .deadspin blog. I put it in quote marks but forgot to attribute it.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
1/31/2015 4:53 pm

Thanks bond, my oversight too (not noticing quotation marks) - film appraisal appreciated all the same, looking forward to seeing :- )


Rocketship 79F
18558 posts
2/1/2015 10:02 am

When folks chose to use personal insults, I think they have lost the debate.

..... just saying~~~~~


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
2/1/2015 12:05 pm

Hi IMCoach - I think there is some misunderstanding, I never made any comments about the 'American Sniper' film/Chris Kyle apart from expressing interest in a review - I know next to nothing about the man and hadn't even considered seeing the film until this discussion. I prefer to keep an open mind. My initial post was in response to the raw or crudely expressed anger/frustration directed at LeafTreat in this blog - it comes across as hateful. Kind regards.


Unsafe_Sax_54 replies on 2/1/2015 2:44 pm:
As opposed to leaf's ever-kindly and supportive missives?

Does the word "gruber" mean anything to you?

lilium6 74F
4498 posts
2/1/2015 6:08 pm

Thanks for this informative (and timely) post lulu, very relevant.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
2/1/2015 6:15 pm

'As opposed to leaf's ever-kindly and supportive missives?

Does the word "gruber" mean anything to you?'

I'm sorry Unsafe_sax, have never heard of it. Perhaps it is best left unsaid :- )