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crazyhorse1946 78M
1406 posts
7/29/2015 5:52 pm
Documented Irresponsibility From Both Parties


People who entered the United States illegally may be called "undocumented" in politically correct circles, but what is all too well documented is the utter irresponsibility of both political parties in dealing with immigration issues.

Both Democratic and Republican administrations have left the border with Mexico porous for years -- porous not just for Mexicans but for anybody else, including terrorists from the Middle East.

Two very different issues have gotten jumbled together in the political stew called "comprehensive immigration reform." The first and most fundamental issue is whether we are going to have an immigration policy at all. The second issue is: Just what should that immigration policy be?

If we do not control our own border, then we do not have any immigration policy. We may have immigration laws on the books, but if anybody can cross the border that wants to, those laws are just words on paper and a bad joke.

Polls showing the surprisingly favorable reactions of some Republican voters to Donald Trump's irresponsible generalities about immigrants probably reflect many people's frustrations with politicians' weasel words on the subject, and politicians' failure to do anything about a festering problem.

The recent murder of Kate Steinle in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant with multiple felonies and multiple expulsions, followed by multiple illegal returns to this "sanctuary city," has been galling to many people.

One immediate consequence of this outrage has been a drive to pass "Kate's law" prescribing mandatory prison time for anyone who has been expelled from this country and comes back again illegally. That is overdue.

It is a painful sign of the deterioration of respect for law that a new law has to be passed to prevent a "sanctuary city" from obstructing justice, which is already a crime.

The larger issue is control of our own borders. We can debate forever whether building a fence is the best way to do that. But too much time has been wasted already.

One thing is certain. Building a fence won't hurt. If other things can be done to secure the border, then do those things as well. The American people deserve some concrete reassurance that Congress is finally getting serious.

Donald Trump's sweeping smear of immigrants does not need to be answered by an equally sweeping celebration of immigrants. Nor should we use the old cop-out that "the truth lies somewhere in between." The truth is wherever you find it. But too many politicians of both parties do not even want to look for the truth.

Instead of holding extensive Congressional hearings, airing all the arguments pro and con on immigration issues, and bringing out all the available facts, some politicians seek to rush through "comprehensive immigration reform" -- meaning some sweeping legislation that neither the public nor the Congress has had time to consider.

Congress did that when it passed ObamaCare. Do we want to let immigration laws become something else that we learn about only after the fact, when it is too late?

No doubt immigrants, like any other large group of human beings, range from some of the best people to some of the worst. But it makes a huge difference what the proportions are.

What are the crime rates, the disease rates, the automobile fatality rates, the educational records of the of immigrants from different countries?

Above all, we need the facts. There has been too much rhetoric already. If our politicians are too gutless to bring out the facts, perhaps some think tank or television station can hold an hour-long debate between some proponent of expansive immigration and some opponent.

Article by Thomas Sowell

bijou624

7/29/2015 11:08 pm

What a terrible problem illegal immigration is. Spend billions to deport them back to Mexico, they can just cross over again, but they probably won't if they can't rent an apartment or get any job.

How about any landlord who is found to rent to an illegal, and any employer who is found to hire an illegal get hit with huge penalties? Enforcement of these penalties is crucial and there could be anonymous tip lines to report illegals renting or illegals working, and the income from the penalties could defray enforcement costs to some extent.

Immigration reform should only be to change the policy to make legalized work permits a little easier.

Trump said in one of his speeches that there may be about 35 million Mexican illegals in the U.S. already and nothing is being done at the border to stop the entire population of Mexico from crossing over illegally.


Rentier1

7/30/2015 5:53 am

Illegal immigration would stop overnight if employers were jailed.

That ain't gonna happen because we all benefit from their undervalued labour.


Rentier1

7/31/2015 5:47 am

Leaf:

There was an interesting item a few months ago that shows just how dependant the US is on illegals.

The feds were going to put in a rule not to employ any company that hired illegals.

They then discovered that this would make it far more difficult to fight forest fires in the NW since many of the contractors used illegals.