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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
7/6/2017 11:44 am

"I also think we are all inclined to give trolls a pass who are flaming away at a shared enemy. Politics can color the judgment of the best of us. What I have seen (I would love to hear other opinions) is that the political center of the site has moved a couple of degrees to the right. Whereas conservatives seemed to be the punching bags in 2010, they now often provide the most substantial, well-researched, and cohesive blogs. The trolls are almost uniformly liberal/progressive in their politics. The true troll doesn't care whether he/she has a coherent philosophy, it suffices to inflame and ridicule, often with irrelevancies."

Blinders are for free on this site....
I must admit, you don't troll like most others, but maisie does.
Liberals do it too.
Trolling is always about the person blogging instead of the content of the blog.
Trolls inflame and thus we have inflamers trolling the trolls.
Never ending cycle

There is another kind of troll.......I'll call it a label troll, always trolling labels.
Now YOU may not be as bad a person troll, but your one of the worst label trolls
You even did it in this blog, trolling about being a troll.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 1:45 pm

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Oh Maisie, you big silly, almost every one of your blogs is just one big troll of the demon "Left"....You seem to think that making the subject of your trolling a larger group somehow relieves you of the "troll" label and therefor the responsibility for your hateful rhetoric. ..........as far as playing the victim, you play the victim constantly.........you and your "group" are always the victim of "the Left"........just re-read your comment here, to see yourself depicted as the victim.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 1:54 pm

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But Liszt, that's what you do constantly........Surely you meant this blog to be ironic......(Conservatives)" now often provide the most substantial, well-researched, and cohesive blogs."........LOL........who are these people?...........You old troll, you..


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/6/2017 3:11 pm

Ironically, I am openly a moderate liberal but find myself wanting to back the conservatives. The difference is that I don't have to hide behind a blank profile using the liberal agenda as a reason for stripping the other side of their humanity.

Most of the time I just laugh at the stupidity. I try to take the high road but it a challenge and I do frequently fall short. It was really hilarious when I was called a Trump Apologist or somebody brought it to the group's attention that I posted pictures of my old panties on-line. At least folks can go back to my blogs back to 2006 and find them. They can also find out about my adventures as a Wal-Mart Associate or Opera. Trollies have blank profile and delete.


Abracadabra


MrsJoe 76F
17280 posts
7/6/2017 3:31 pm

Back before I even knew what the blogs were, we had The Porch, our affectionate name for the magazine advice lines. It was a fun place sometimes, but boy oh boy, there were some wars, and FLAMING wars. Then it would die down, until some one would return to start it all up again..... and it wasn't always the same person, and sad to say that many of us, yes including me, joined in.
But I try to remember what that really intelligent woman, ConeyIslandBabe said..... She tried to remind us that none of us know what was going on with the person on the other side of the screen..... mental illness, alcohol abuse, or drug abuse could be involved. I tried to follow her advice, but didn't always succeed.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 4:50 pm

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Give me examples of these most substantial, well-researched blogs by Republicans.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 5:05 pm

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Disagreeing with Christian dogma or with the principal of American Exceptionalism doesn't make a blog anti.......I have posted almost exclusively photo blogs and personal stories for at least the past year. You, on the other hand, post an angry, scathing diatribe that places anyone who is Left of your politics into the category you're dissing every single day........There have been many instances where you have made ludicrous, unfounded assumptions. It doesn't even seem to occur to you,for instance, that the politics in other countries don't fall into the same patterns as those in the US......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 5:45 pm

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I have seen all your blogs for the last year......and I just wanted to confirm my suspicion that you were referring to your own blogs.........when you used those flattering descriptions......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 5:46 pm

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And yet another example of your trolling........


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/6/2017 6:56 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Back before I even knew what the blogs were, we had The Porch, our affectionate name for the magazine advice lines. It was a fun place sometimes, but boy oh boy, there were some wars, and FLAMING wars. Then it would die down, until some one would return to start it all up again..... and it wasn't always the same person, and sad to say that many of us, yes including me, joined in.
    But I try to remember what that really intelligent woman, ConeyIslandBabe said..... She tried to remind us that none of us know what was going on with the person on the other side of the screen..... mental illness, alcohol abuse, or drug abuse could be involved. I tried to follow her advice, but didn't always succeed.
I remember The Porch and being a target in one of the flame wars. I am in a far better space now than I was at that time but I learned a lot. There were some who tried to drive me off the site but I'm still here. The same insults that crushed me at that time are laughable now. The best way to deal with a troll is to simply not engage. I love a good politically discussion but try to stick to the issue versus attacking the other person.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/6/2017 8:50 pm

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Yeah, this is your blog....LOL....I live on the West Coast, where "trolling"
has a different meaning than it does to you. Trolling is when you fish from a boat by dragging your lure behind the boat, hoping to get a bite. That's what you do......obviously.


Rentier1

7/7/2017 6:40 am

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Moi, for one.

Skariff, for two.


Rentier1

7/7/2017 6:44 am

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It's also called throwing gasoline on the flames.

Given your behaviour I have serious doubt that you want nothing but reasoned argument.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/7/2017 10:20 am

If a blogger utilizes the constitutional right to express political or religious views and fires back when someone attacks them for that view - That is not trolling. Ignoring it would probably be a better option but human beings can't always do that. The natural instinct is to Fight or Flight. Nobody is going to make me take flight from my own blog.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/7/2017 1:26 pm

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I did grow up with Troll mythology........and it is huge and various .......The word Troll is akin to Tryll....which means magic, or conjure. It is a large extended family, conjured up in the imaginations of Humans to explain , describe, create,
fantasize.....like any mythology, it is impossible for modern people to know for sure what the original beliefs and thinking was about the phenomena......what the intersections were between reality and imagination in those far-away times before books.

In my lifelong studies of specific and general Anthropologies, following the ancient pathways in order to track the thinking, It's clear that we have a poor understanding of ancient Man's perception of the natural world and their relationship with it.......I find it a fascinating study.

Mythology sometimes provides a useful window, but we are so limited by our own prejudiced, unconscious perception. Reading the writings of the earliest post-contact perceptions by Europeans, the doctors, missionaries, government agents etc. that comprised those who wrote down their observations of the local Native populations contrasted with the recordings and translations of the Natives themselves, illustrates how broad the gulfs are between our modern thinking and that of the bearers of myth.

I read the Bible as mythology as well, what did the thinking of the desert tribes look like 5000 to 2500 years ago?.......What was their perception of the natural world, in a time when the explanation for natural phenomena was that a metaphysical, all-powerful force was the prime mover and the force behind it and it somehow linked to them personally.

The troll under the bridge is a popular children's story, but the roots of it are quite complex and has to do with Human frailty in the thrall of Natural forces that often felt like they were about to annihilate them. In a mountainous, Northern country with high precipitation, the Spring snow-melt had extreme power........Roaring down the mountains, carrying away careless Humans and livestock. The alpine meadows surge into full flower suddenly and are necessary for the livelihood of the Humans and their flock, necessitating them taking the risk to cross the bridge beneath which crouches an unpredictable monster.....The story of the 3 Billygoats overcoming their fear of the monster in order to get to the life-sustaining grass is one that is typical of Humans overcoming the vagaries of Nature at a time before Science and Technology were developed....a time when Nature was personified in order for Humanity to prosper...........And so it is, with all of Mythology.....stories conjured up by the ever fruitful Human imagination in all it's amazing varieties.........


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/7/2017 8:30 pm

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In many of the cultures I've studied, there is no separation between Mythology, Religion and Art.......Is this not also true for our Western culture?.......The Roman Catholic Church for instance......blurs those categories in every aspect. ........can you really separate these "avenues"and assign them gradations of value?......What criteria do you use when separating Mythology, Religion and Art, while listening to Handel's Messiah?, Or staring at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel?.......What % of Myth went into that endeavour? What % of Religion? and what of Art? and how much is each worth without the others?.


Rentier1

7/8/2017 7:32 am

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You need to review my blogs.


Rentier1

7/8/2017 7:40 am

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And if you need examples of my blogs the lack poison darts, I will gladly point you to a few.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/8/2017 2:19 pm

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No, the Jesus birth story has been told in many older mythologies than the Christian one......Many older gods that were born of a virgin on Winter Solstice,
died and resurrected in 3 days......Mithras, for instance, and yes, a great flood in the distant pass was also popular in many cultures across the World........The ancient mythologies all had roots in Nature, on the Earth and in the sky.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/9/2017 1:47 pm

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Freud was quite obsessed with his Oedipus Complex and so based his theories on Religion in this light as well. He states a childlike longing for a father figure as the first impetus to Religion.....This is not true of all Religions, I don't remember if he specified, it was a long time ago that I read it and even longer ago that he wrote it.

Freud saw the individual as the enemy of Society and that we all have instinctual urges that must be controlled in order for Society to function.........He posits that Human Nature is destructive and Religion offers to reward good behaviour.

I see a vast difference between consciously and deliberately entertaining an illusion, fantasy, imagination, art, novels. movies, games etc. as opposed to Religious Faith, which is to adopt the illusion as reality and to act as if it is true........There are many girls who are fed a princess illusion by Society and long for a Prince.....The truth is that even a Prince is a flawed Human.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/9/2017 3:15 pm

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Extending your analogy, if Philosophy and Religion were indeed "stable mates", Philosophy would be a living, breathing animal that produced actual product for Human sustenance, while Religion would be an inanimate object that was a mere representation of reality. Religion is fossilised philosophy.....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/9/2017 9:33 pm

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I know, and it has been examined and examined beyond all reasonable levels of navel-gazing. I find it excruciatingly tedious and pedantic......Studying the studying of the study of the study of a non'existent non-existence....