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9/1/2014 12:07 am |
I refrained, well a bit, of getting involved into this type of topics, but giving it's obviously symptomatic, I would like to add something: I read some time ago, an article about the new technologies...and blocking, was considered the equivalent of a violent act towards someone. Giving we are different from animals because we posess the language ability, this mean appears to not allow the other (human) the freedom of speech. And acting out is avoiding to talk and patch things up. And oh yes, i've been blocked on the chat by a few, but not by men, lol....there is no chance to communicate, negotiate, learn to articulate stuff that at first sight appears impossible to talk about. But, aren't we in a time of anger, rage and violence? Maybe one should use it in a constructive manner....I find this post important...
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9/1/2014 1:01 am |
Lulu if you allow me, in your post I see, briefly, a few contradictions: how can one "ask" traumatized children, who have never experienced what communication is, but violence from their parents to "get it", without learning how to approach their (traumatized) feelings and understand in what manner they can jeopardize the relationship with others? At 7 years old, a little girl was discovering the gender difference, for one, but for two, how could she understand his reaction, without first having worked through psychologically what was going on (the violence) in her family? She was only projecting something very important at that moment (and her sisters): she was only expressing that she felt rejected and abandoned, but it had nothing to do with the boys apparent "indifference", but only by what they were carrying from home. This is what saddens me, when adults cannot analyse their own "unconscious dynamics", because unconsciousness rhymes with rendering the child responsible of what adults cannot see in themselves (parents, psychologists, etc.) and work through, with the whys....not only placate absurd behavioral normative standardized "systems" on kids in full development. And am not so sure, ultimately, that one can compare, a child in full development, with adults who keep going with the same "unconscious dynamics" of violence, because an adult is ideally supposed to be aware of own degrees of anger, or differentiate between acting out the anger and verbalize it, which is a more difficult job. And do not think, in my opinion, that at a certain age, complaining being blocked, is unreasonable, as adults. We all have a wounded child within ourselves, it only depends what we choose to do with him/her.
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9/1/2014 2:45 am |
[ 3]My comment was intended as an allegory about human dynamics.........In my position as leader of a recreation program with many children and other adults dealing with those children, it certainly wasn't part of my job description, training, time or a possibility to offer trauma counseling or therapy to the children.......but to keep all the children happy, safe and healthy......... all of them.....dynamics was the key..........group dynamics........ I'm certainly not aware of the whole story, but I only see bottled anger and unresolved issues with these blockings....
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9/1/2014 3:54 am |
Hi Liszt: I hope you can try to keep an open mind and not get offended because I'm sincerely just trying to help you and your wife understand what might be the problem. Did either of you ever consider that the reason you are probably getting blocked and in so many scraps in the group may not because of Mitee or domineering women or someone else??? Maybe you two could try to be a little nicer for awhile and just see what happens. I'll bet you will make lots of new friends here. Remember: It's nice to be important, but more important to be nice. 
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I didnt notice any change in SFF. Everyone is still fighting
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9/1/2014 9:26 am |
Passing on one of grandma's sayings "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar". Sums it up succinctly. It's simple. Consider your goal here and if you really want inclusion adopt the techniques that will produce it. However, I strongly suspect it's not inclusion you seek Spiritwoman ^i^
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Hi Liszt, I really don't think there's a 'club' here. I think that the majority of folks who joined this site, chat, or blog are here to have FUN.... a break from the humdrum or busyness of their days. Anyway... that's why I'm here.... I just want to have FUN and make new friends.  
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Thanks Maisie, It was a tough day for me. The house is in an uproar with the sorting and packing, and then discovered that the seal in the lower level toilet had gone, so mopping & trying to dry out the floor added to the chores.... I didn't need that!!! There was no way I could stay awake for trivia last night. I sure hope next Sunday will be better! Trivia is a lot of FUN!!!
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9/1/2014 4:55 pm |
The crop of ladies under discussion will have to dramatically increase their vitriol to approach the Fab Four. They are rank amateurs in comparison.
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9/2/2014 5:38 am |
I don't know why Maisie keeps on insisting that any of us lefties are incapable of reasonable discussion. She has stated this on more than one occasion. I certainly am, as are Bond and Skariff. And I can certainly give examples of people on her side of the fence who can't respond to opposing opinion with anything other than insult. Broadsides such as this do nothing to enhance one's credibility.
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9/2/2014 2:12 pm |
Rarely? Hardly, old son. I think if you read my blogs you will see that most are serious and absent of invective. I am pleased that you have noted I only indulge myself when someone makes a fatuous remark. Your recognition of Bond and Skariff means that you disagree with your good wife on the matter in question.
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9/2/2014 7:37 pm |
Good Grief! Obviously I don't think it's out of context.........Those children are now well adjusted adults... don't worry, I am well aware of the importance of confidentiality.......but the people I refer to could never be identified from the story I told here..........
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9/2/2014 7:52 pm |
Hello Massie! It took me a bit of time as a newbie to figure out what was going on in here. I think you pointed out what happened, i.e. woman blocking me (actually i'm at number 4 lol...lucky number? lol and maybe becoming the feminine part of what Liszt mentioned of his own experience here. caorlina panter, mites and simple lady on the blogs...and have never ever spoke to these people, not even know them. and blocked me since day 2 I came on this site, with an excited disposition. Strange, maybe some are, or appear, to have that speedy drive to immediately classify people, put them tight in boxes. for reasons I cannot know. But do I wish to know now these people? As I said: the communication is impossible in these conditions, and only maintain the conflict(s) unresolved. As fare as for the political needed debates with counterparts...well as a newbie here, i am still studying both sides...and do believe both sides have/had valid points. Yet at this time I dont know why the gap is now so important between the two.
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9/2/2014 8:12 pm |
Since that post, I witnessed an attack last night...on you and wondered what would have been if these devices be not used: how the communication would have evolved. It's right there that, I think things would have been very different, between us, so-called humans. I am using these words, maybe because, giving the example of children in this blog, my mind percolates a bit farer: 1st, because that author has alarmed adults in the usage of these new techs (he even trains at gov. level), and teaches parents how they should explain them to their children (we know some get addicted to video games, chats, etc). I understand our generation had not this education. And it's what made me say something in here...as I consider the blocking device a part of a bigger problem. Second, the most important point, is -and maybe I became so sensitive in the last weeks, as of how children and the new techs are used in that horrible war- that we should first pay attention in our homes how we use, actually any type of violence. That's maybe an unusual view, but think it may help those who would like to think a bit deeper....
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9/7/2014 4:18 pm |
Maisie lol...not going into politics much here...as mentioned, I am still scratching my head and studying things from both sides or any other helpful side; and especially because there is an important gap, which appears to be significant. What helps me at this time is to go backwards...and try to search if there is any root, a deep root; everything is so complex nowadays, some basic principles, in this "trip" backwards, may also help, at least it's my way to figure out things a little bit. At this point, one side did participate in freeing the the communist block, ppl there were waiting for the Americans to save them for many decades. On the other side, in the 60s, America did an incredible step regarding the blacks. But also since then, mistakes took place, again from both sides...And, my point is, I think, that we are now a generation who has to deal with unresolved stuff from the past... Regarding mitee...don't know what to say, other than he blocked me the 1st day-I believe i watched once his blog, and like others who blocked me, have never spoken to him, or barely -. In general, we are all part of stats...and am not a statical, but I totally agree, I do not understand-but again hey, do I want to?- why when a correct stat is available, be driven by such types of reactions? without a word? Either 2 things: these individuals do not know how to communicate about complex things, have no ability to articulate them; or maybe they do not want to....and believe one cannot force somebody who clearly doesn't want to communicate, anything but what flatters the ego.... At our ages, we are all tired, fragile, and so on...but still do believe that, at least, giving the issues we have inherited, we at least should try to talk, for the sake of the next generations. That's why it's important to talk, instead of replacing it with acting out. Both cannot function together: it's either one or the other. It's like parents fights...it's ok to fight...but the sign of maturity it's also to stop fighting and make pace. Internet only allows and develops immaturities....all types...
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