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MrsJoe 76F
17376 posts
12/29/2016 8:16 am

He opened his mouth and out came Obama and lots of gobbly-gook. Thank God they will both soon be gone, and hopefully we can start to repair the damage that has been caused.
By reference to his statement, "......Israel can either be Jewish or democratic. It cannot be both.”, comes the inference that American can either be Christian or democratic. It cannot be both. Our forefathers would beg to differ!


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Rentier1

12/29/2016 4:38 pm

Can you cite one instance where the Obama administration condemned Israel for merely existing?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 5:12 pm

    Quoting Rentier1:
    Can you cite one instance where the Obama administration condemned Israel for merely existing?
Maisie can't,

Everything here she has said is a lie.

That would be okay if she was lying to herself.

but there are too many idiots here that believe her.

Doesn't anybody find that Trump's gravitates towards Russia and Israel?

that's strange.......the ideologies aren't the same.....
So what is it?

How about control, how about wealth, how about mirrored values?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 5:20 pm

Maisie
think about it..

How can this turn out?

What good can come from it?

What will Russia or Israel do now with the Trump election, that will turn out good for US

There isn't a damn thing, not a one

If you think about it...keep this in mind........
I don't support Palestine.. In fact, I hate those SOB's


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 5:50 pm

    Quoting  :

It's not anti-Israel...It's pro-world, It's pro-USA

Trumps going have you spinning on own lies.

It's amazes how much you see that you should ignore and how much you ignore that you should see.

There is not one shred of evidence that Obama is anti-Israel.

That is unless, one can believe that not supporting something is against it. Obama has never given Israel carte blanche, and he shouldn't

It's your fricken way of thinking, so how could you possibly understand.
I give up, Your just lying now.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 5:56 pm

    Quoting  :

It's like me saying Trump said he grabs women by the croutch, so he's a croutch grabber. Woman need to look for him, he a mysoginist, and a pervert.

Well he did say it.

but I would be lying

he only grabs what he consider beautiful woman by the croutch, It actuality he's doesn't grab the women, he grabs the beauty.

Ignore it and your just a slime ball too.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 6:11 pm

    Quoting  :

Not a reason you have given... means Obama is anti-Israel...not a single one.
Your inference is a lie, so your whole blog is lie.

You don't get it..

No matter what Obama does or says, he's anti-Trump, not anti-Israel.
he's got to bite tongue, but that doesn't mean he can't wield his power.

You're seeing it with Russia and you're seeing it with Israel.
I imagine when he passes the torch.. You'll get both barrels.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 6:29 pm

    Quoting  :

You're right about one thing... Palestine doesn't want a peaceful solution.
Palestinians, are assholes

So what we need to do, is support Israel to wipe them off the face of the earth. make Jerusalem the capital, take back all their previous won gains. and the hell with everything else.

and what does that get us?

Now you have to understand no matter how sorry I feel for Israel. I'm more concerned about US

I think there are too many assholes here to worry about the assholes over there
And Preparatioin H, ain't getting rid of ours..
I figuring a Trump enema will do the trick!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/29/2016 7:11 pm

    Quoting  :

That's not true
Netanyahu, is not the problem, he understands the situation and is influenced by the US. He doesn't like being influence but he is. Netanyahu, opponents in Israel are the real problem.
With Trump and Davids Friedman, they will be influenced in the wrong way.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
12/30/2016 1:12 am

It's sad, the only democratic country in the region has been rejected by other democracies and stands alone under tremendous pressure. Israel should be supported till all, and I mean ALL its territory is back to where it really should be and able to be comfortably defended by its military.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


MrsJoe 76F
17376 posts
12/30/2016 6:01 am

    Quoting  :

Yes, he was elected, IN SPITE OF Obama trying to influence the election against him!

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/30/2016 8:14 am

The Palestine issue, has somewhat subsided as a Muslim issue. Palestine appears to be a less important problem NOW than other issues in the Middle East.

Maisie said the West Bank settlement will secure Israel
Maisie cites history.

Well, I got some history of my own for her...

If Jerusalem was to become the Capital, if the US moved it's embassy there.
In the proverbial "Kingdom of Heaven" the shit will hit the fan.

I don't profess to know the right or wrong of it. but I do profess to know the reaction to it. What history has told us, is that Jerusalem is not the center of peace, but of conflict. With Jerusalem as Israel's capital, there will never be peace.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 8:59 am

I have brought about the idea of an outside in view of things, instead of an inside out. Dealing with what's going to happen, and what yoiu want to happen, before you deal with what you're going to do. then actually with what happens, as it relates to what you did.

Maisie, think about it.

What's going to happen when Israel makes Jerusalem it's capital and the west bank it's territory, your perception of the right wrong doesn't matter. It's the results. What will be the RESULTS?

WE can't put everybody on the same page, but no matter what the Palestinians do, the world's onus will be on Israel. Israel can not depend on just US support, it only works to justify US opinion, not world opinion.

Their have rumblings from the UK and Australia, in support of Israel. This is what has to happen. with our veto, it would not have happen. WE have continually not allowed the world to stand up for itself, not just about Israel but about everything. I have no doubt Trump's administration and it's America first policy, will again, try to dictate to the world. Israel will be the first step. but others will follow. We will influence the world, to ignore our good, and admonish our bad, as time goes on the "ungrateful world", will act upon their ungratefulness. Israel will be the first step, to isolate US and Israel from the rest of the world.

Looking outside in, our abstention at the UN was the best vote possible.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 9:04 am

With an outside in view.... Our goal in the middle East, should be to do whatever possible to have Muslim fight Muslim. It's the only way, the results will solve the problem.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 9:13 am

    Quoting  :

Maisie,
Try and think.

The idea of an "abstention", is in reality doing what's best for Israel.
For Israel to exist, as part of this world, we can no longer be the sole support.

Trump talks from both sides of his face. As we have just given Israel 36 BILLION dollars in support. what more do they want?

Why isn't the rest of world giving their support?
Why are we paying for the UN, and NATO, and the rest of world world doesn't pay their fair share?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 9:31 am

I'm tired of the rest of world getting off the hook. Sitting around the breakfast table. and saying " let Mikey (US) try it"

It's time the world steps to the table.
It's time the world ante's up

It's time the world can no longer say. US did it, it's their fault, and in the same breathe take credit for what we do that's good.

It's time for Israel to find out who their real friend are. It's time for Israel to make new friends.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 10:20 am

Obama Administration Proposes Up to $40 Billion in Military Aid to Israel
Headlines Apr 29, 2016

36 billion was given... Largest pack ever given
It basically up the 3 billion a year to 3.6 billion a year. Obama proposed 4 billion a year!
Total aide to Israel for military already given....... 140 BILLION which is half the GNP of Israel.
Obama doesn't support Israel........WTF is that?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 10:43 am

There one true fact about the "Conservative" view, and "Conservative" actions.

They are much better at making enemies than making friends.

Trump will personify that.....Whatever good he does, will be destroyed by the enemies he makes. It's going to happen. there is no other alternative.

He can't win it all, so he can't win anything.. That's the truth.

Trump will be known as the WORST president this countries has ever known. He will make George W Bush look like a saint. It's going to happen, it's written in stone, and on his tombstone.

Again with my irony, the fact is..... he will be the best president for our time.
he will bring US together, to see the truth. And that is what we need.
His negative, will bring out our positive, it's the way it works these days.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 10:57 am

There one true fact about the "Conservative" view, and "Conservative" actions.

They are much better at making enemies than making friends.

Trump will personify that.....Whatever good he does, will be destroyed by the enemies he makes. It's going to happen. there is no other alternative.

He can't win it all, so he can't win anything.. That's the truth.

Trump will be known as the WORST president this countries has ever known. He will make George W Bush look like a saint. It's going to happen, it's written in stone, and on his tombstone.

Again with my irony, the fact is..... he will be the best president for our time.
he will bring US together, to see the truth. And that is what we need.
His negative, will bring out our positive, it's the way it works these days.

Hillary's election would have done NOTHING for this country. A change was needed, no matter what direction that change was going to take. change serves it own purpose.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 5:04 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Nice blog, Jiminy. The last seven posts are all yours. I stopped reading after one. You should make notes because English composition is not one of your strengths. People might actually read your comments if they weren't such rambling collections of disjointed thoughts.



    Fossil

I guess i could write twenty blog responses instead

in order of importance.

Look outside in. That means to see the results and then work your way back. Instead of just looking at the purposed action to purposed results

Our abstention was the best thing for Israel. Not for US, it's about looking outside in.

Obama is NOT anti-Israel, he's got 40 billion reasons why

Trump will change the way we look at things.

The Middle East is not US against them..... it's needs to be them against them.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/31/2016 5:17 pm

    Quoting  :

Well, isn't it convenient you don't understand.

Without understanding you can't have questions?

without questions, you don't want to understand.

It's getting ridiculous that you can't make a comment about what i say?
I don't write perfectly, never really have, I don't have time or inclination to try and get people to understand something, they won't understand anyway.

So read it at your own peril. don't blame me...You refuse to understand.

Basically you and fossil have arrived at the same conclusion, it just not worth your time. Maybe if you took the time... I would too.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/1/2017 7:01 am

    Quoting  :

an amazing group mentality

code sayings and code words.

I can decifer the code but cant understand it... so we do have that in common
.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/1/2017 7:29 am

Maisie,

in my order of importance

Look outside in. That means to see the results and then work your way back. Instead of just looking at the purposed action to purposed results.

It doesn't matter what side on your on. This is MOST important thing we need to do.
Trump is the master at not doing it.
He purposes actions, then gives his statements as to the results of those
actions. But in truth, the statements are a lie. The purposed results are used to gain support.
The actual results, are excuses and justification, that are soon forgotten.
I think his most recent statement, will be used over and over again.
"WE NEED TO MOVE ON"
It's his code words and statements. Telling you folks to just forget about it.

Just like you folks use "what's wrong with you?" It's just saying to others They need to move on. So you do have that in common with Trump.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/1/2017 5:10 pm

I listen to fox news and they talk about why Obama is trying to submarine Trump presidency.

Well it's stupid to not understand it.
put the emphasis were you want.

Obama is doing things that he knows Trump won't do, like Israel and the Russians. Obama knows that Trump will not do it. It's too important for Trump to be able to sweep it under the carpet.

So is that submarine or just doing his job..
I take the latter.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/3/2017 10:10 am

    Quoting  :

It an amazing enlightenment without light.

One would think that our enemies would shake in their boots with Trump election. if he is, what he says he is.

But our enemies support Trumps....bump

Those who are our friends, other than Israel. hate Trump

WHat does that say?