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MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
7/27/2016 4:36 am

Nothing hiLIARy does anymore surprises me......... but one day, people will wake up. I hope it is this year in November.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/27/2016 6:30 am

This election is going get very interesting.

'I don't know what's going to happen

But as we move through, it will become clear that the Republican Party has become outed and ousted. no matter who wins.

There are some parts of the Republican platform, such as smaller government, taxation issues, strong military, and making America great, that won't be effected. But that which has had the hand in sinking the Republican Party will fall to the wayside Things such as moral issues, religious government, obstructionism, and negativism will be effected. These are things that have opened the door to this election, to survive the Republican Party will have to close that door. The disrespect Americans give to Americans, is a loss to us all.


MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
7/27/2016 6:42 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    I've been hearing the phrase "one day, people will wake..." for far too many days. The Democrats are on an ascending spiral. The more they flaunt the law in our faces, the more their followers praise their wanton crimes. I am sickened to think there are people I know who fully support this type of leadership.

    Fossil


It is even harder when they are family......... I wonder how Juan Williams and his sons do it? I guess blood is thicker than politics, huh? Just teasing, a little.
I've seen "friends" get nasty with each other on face book, and I think to myself, how can they call themselves "friends"? Difference of opinions are fine, but why get nasty with each other?
An example..... Bigblock and I totally disagree about voting against hiLIARy. I believe a vote for anyone else but Trump is for hiLIARy's benefit, he does not think so. Do we scream and trash each other and end our friendship? Heck no. In fact, we are planning on getting together again sometime..... and truthfully, politics will probably be a very little bit of our conversation topics.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Rentier1

7/27/2016 7:19 am

If I understand it correctly, the Obama administration has kicked out more illegals than the Bush mob ever did.

I certainly see why the Reps were slow in removing illegals since many of their supporters benefit tremendously (as do we all) from the cheap labour illegals supply.

Obama has also addressed some of the grey areas of the illegal problem using exec orders.

Seems to me on balance he has done what Bush II wanted to do but couldn't for political reasons.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/27/2016 7:19 am

I know it's hard for many of you to see.
As the left pummels you with the idea of The Republican Party, being racist, misogynist, and, elitist. They do, back to you, what you do to them. Of course it's wrong and it's not all true.

But I tell you what, if I had to take one issue, one Republican mistake that has created this entire scenario. It would be Christianity.
As soon as the Republicans attempted to coronate themselves as the Christian party. This whole thing has fallen apart. Too many holes, too many loopholes, too much hypocrisy, too much division, too much exclusions. and the non-realization of Christian diversity.
We have always been and will continue to be a country based on Christian principles. But we can never be a Christian country. No Evangelical can tell a Catholic what's right, and no Catholic can tell a Protestant what's right.
And no political party can call itself Christian, because, in the base of it all, all political parties are Christian.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/27/2016 8:37 am

    Quoting  :

now let's be clear...I'm not calling the Republican Party the Christian party. It's not.

That's not what my blog says.

But, you're foolish if you think the Republican Party isn't trying to call itself that .

However, everything you do and everything you says..says exactly that.
Now the Republican cannot exclude anybody. They can afford to. So do they come right and say it? That they are Christian party.. No they don't. But for inclusion purposes they scream it, with as silent a voice as possible.

it's interesting the way you phrased your answer. Because to many Republicans, and condoned by the party, Democrats are the black party, the women party, the Muslim party, the Russian party, The communist party, and most of all the Anti-Christain Party


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/27/2016 9:28 am

There are two small circles in politics, both are misinformed and misdirected
The Christian moralists and the Atheist or Agnostic.
They are made to be identifiable as Conservative or Liberal. They are no such thing.
Not even close
Someone like DanDee who Christianity is attacked by Atheists, sees only Atheists Liberals. he has been misdirected and misinformed to believe that.
He defends conservativism in the name of Christianity..
The fact is one has nothing to do with the other. The political circles of Christianity and Atheism are small, it almost unidentifiable. The crossover between political parties and Christianity and Atheism is also unidentifiable.
Yet we choose to identify it. Name it, label it, create it.

For me I don't believe in religion, Christianity included. However that being said I was brought up Catholic. Now what I think, is that those who choose to believe in religion, should be liberal minded. I always wondered why that wasn't the case?
I sit here and think how many of you, will blame my thoughts of this on my liberal Catholic upbringing and how Christian you really are.


MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
7/27/2016 11:35 am

    Quoting  :

Laughing at that last statement........ how true!
But at one of the past conventions, the mention of God and Jerusalem was booed.... hmmm, which convention was that? That was the last straw for my conservative Democrat husband. He was already disillusioned by many changes in their platform over the years, but that was the final insult in his mind.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/27/2016 12:23 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    "But I tell you what, if I had to take one issue, one Republican mistake that has created this entire scenario. It would be Christianity. As soon as the Republicans attempted to coronate (sic) themselves as the Christian party. This whole thing has fallen apart".

    Those are your words, Jiminy.

    It sounds to me like you are calling the Republican Party the Christian Party. But, I sometimes forget that you walk on both sides of the issue damned near every time.



    Fossil

That's because Jiminy can see both sides of any issue, weigh them up against each other and act on his conscience. How else would we humans make decisions?
That's the way the human mind works, the answers are not always clear so, on many important issues we can't make a firm decision. We are left in a quandary and search further for an answer.

Seeing both sides of an issue is not wrong or stupid. Nor is it dishonest.

Instead of calling someone stupid, maybe we should respect the fact that they have a good active conscience.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
7/27/2016 1:17 pm

Not to the Bernie lovers, they hate HiLiary!! Once it was announced she was the candidate, half the people cleared out and she spoke to a lot of empty seats. Shiny and new my A$$! Or should I say mule?


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/27/2016 10:17 pm

    Quoting  :



Do you really think you can make me feel degraded with that shower of weaselling words?
Why on earth do you think your opinion matters to me?


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/28/2016 1:03 am

    Quoting  :

You mean like your blanket "decision" that all Liberals are weak cowards and all Republicans are strong and righteous patriots?

That is not "decision"... you don't even have to think about it...it's just allowing your own prejudices and obsessions to run amok. You can't even co-ordinate your own brain, so you don't recognise your own jello

If you actually gave it any thought at all, you'd know how ridiculous it sounds.
As you are fond of saying "There is no one size fits all"

Except when it's you saying it eh?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/28/2016 6:12 am

    Quoting  :

Dan,

just because I used you as an example. doesn't mean I know exactly how you think.

I have nothing to disagree with in your response.

I have no idea of the specific impact of the Right, has on your Christianity. But what I am saying is your Christianity does have specific impact on the Right.

That may seem normal to you, that peoples beliefs should impact the political party they belong to.
But what I believe is that the Republican party uses people's specific beliefs to keep them in line.

Instead of finding your commonality with Republicans, look at what you differ with. See if you can influence the Republican party on things you differ.
You will come to find they are the one having control over you, and you have NO control over them.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/28/2016 7:35 am

    Quoting  :

"The Republican Party's platform is more in keeping with the Judeo-Christian tradition, and this will attract some support"

What's is your definition of Judeo-Christian tradition? and how does the Republican Party conform to that more than the Democrat party?

Now,i don't think it matters, as to who conform to what. But if I did, I would not make the above statement.

When I don't care about a specific, the perception of what that is is more important to me.

So I ask you, What is your perception of Judeo-Christian tradition and how does the Republican party conform?

Surprise me , and answer.....I'm sure you can come up with some nebulas, generality, but I like to hear it anyway.
I enjoy reading my daily horrorscoop.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/28/2016 9:05 am

    Quoting  :

I'm sure we will hear more about ISIS tonight

But ISIS is not high my list, no matter what you say, or anyone says

On my list of scary things ISIS is way down there

No matter what we do, Stay out of it, support their opposition, or bomb the hell out of them. It won't matter the results will all be the same.
ISIS is unsustainable, no matter what we do.

I don't support ISIS, if there's something I hate, it's them. I just don't fear them.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/28/2016 11:57 am

    Quoting  :

Oh, I grasp it very well Maisie...a lot better than you think.
If, in your two years of blogging, you had just once found something less critical to say about those you love to put down...I might have believed that you'd actually put some thought into making your so-called "decisions".

According to you, Liberals are stupid and evil cowards, atheists are stupid and evil cowards, gays are stupid and evil cowards, Muslims are stupid and evil cowards, Black people are all stupid killers and freeloaders, Mexicans are stupid freeloaders, and non-Americans are actually stupid anti-Americans.

In fact, you seem to have "decided" the only humans of any worth are the far-right conservatives/Republicans. ...and even then, only those you agree with.

How did you arrive at that viewpoint you are so proud of?
Certainly not by rational thinking, because clear rational thinking could not possibly produce such extreme bias...especially not from one who regards herself as "socially liberal/fiscally conservative ". They are two complete opposites on the political scale...you cannot be both, and definitely not with your twisted viewpoint, which is not in the least bit nebulous...you've made that very clear.

By the way, I don't question your loyalty to your party...only the ethics of how you arrived at your decision that most of humanity (those you don't agree with) are stupid, immoral and evil cowards.

That is a huge condemnation of your fellow human beings... sort of like saying "Let them eat cake"

But I suppose it is one way of denying your moral responsibilities.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/28/2016 5:05 pm

    Quoting  :

Maisie
You lose!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
7/28/2016 5:07 pm

    Quoting  :

Maisie
You lose!

Dal with it and you have chance....Don't and YOU LOSE


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/28/2016 11:28 pm

    Quoting  :

That's ok Maisie, just you turn the blame on me! That's what you always do anyway.
No change there then!