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Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
1/7/2016 8:37 am

Very good blog Maisie


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/7/2016 8:50 am

Things have changed here.
Sure we have always had people here who got nasty. Some came in just to do that, but it mostly it was about liars, dating scoundrels, and The people taking advantage of others. They seem to all get weeded out, by an overall site attitude and others would have to come in to take their place.
The site has changed, and the way I see it, it started with you.
What you have said here, is true. Your definition of being nasty is one in which you do not abide. You to you are not nasty, nor do you conform to your definition of nasty.
But maisie, you are the one that built the glass house, then complain when people throw stones.
Your glass house is political ideology, In the general sense it's disrespectful to those holding opposing view.
Nastiness, is not specific thing, doesn't always require one on one facial confrontation as you would define it.
So face to face, one on one you're NOT nasty.
But, to opposing ideologies, and people who hold those ideas, and people who represent those ideas, like Obama. You are nasty. Because of that you have opened the door to all kind of nastiness, and then do not profess any responsibility.
What I have learned, now, is that political blogs, no longer have any meaning here. There is no discussion. They are simply seen as the choosing sides, and choosing the definition of nasty accordingly.

I have seen the Fab four, and others believing in their righteousness. without compassion or empathy for some others here.
But, with the coming of you and your political blogs, it have been taken to new heights, and now, there's nothing we can do about it.

I certainly don't believe in was your intent, but it is what has happened. You and those that support you, believe yourselves to be reactionary to nastiness, it's only an excuse.


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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/7/2016 8:58 am

maisie,
if you don't believe me, look at your own blog

leaf makes a statement.....Have you tried fiber?

Then look at the responses, including your own. Then tell me what is nasty and what is not.


spiritwoman45

1/7/2016 10:43 am

I see the same type of behavior in both men and women but as others said the men are more direct about it. If there is nothing going on that they can snip and snipe about they dredge up stiff so old most of us have no idea what they are talking about. Men, other that a couple od women already named, usually address the person or the issue directly (although not necessarily in a less emotional instigating manner) where as the women at issue make vague, stinging accusations the go for the emotional juggler.

My main comment to Massie is that you do present a lot of your ideas on a way many can see as abrasive. As I said in another comment you have done a great job of adapting to the current political communication style. I sincerely mean this as a compliment. Most of the people I known bailed from politics rather than endure the personal abuse they take if they participate.

Politics is a highly emotional and volatile venue. Sadly it's not like it was back in the days when you debated any more. It is not possible to discuss political issues in a sane logical manner.

Toss in all of the dysfunction sites like SSF and the internet in general open the door to and what you see here is exactly what results.


Spiritwoman ^i^


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/7/2016 10:58 am

    Quoting  :

Well, he didn't quite say that. If he said "look in the mirror, first" would that have not been nasty.
I think it didn't matter what he said.
Those that maisie, have pointed out as children, she can't understand. Are just the tip of the iceberg.
Do you and maise, think that those women going away is going to solve anything?
There was time not so long ago, that friends defends friends. Today ideology defend ideology, knowing no bounds for that defense. It's what I don't understand.
Knxlady blog about ranger, as much as I disagreed with her reason for posting it. Her point was undeniable to anybody of any ideology. Your position that it was bad, but not that bad, was fraught with a lack of integrity mitigating by ideology. Did maisie cite this as one of the most glaring examples? No she didn't. So when maise speaks of nastiness it's about those that oppose her. She has no integrity of thought about what equal treatment means.
Maisie feeds the beast of negativity here.
Maisie has the power she sought, gained through negativity. It works for her here, and is being worked by both sides of the aisle in Washington. That negativity will be gone, when those who don't see it her way are gone. What do you think happens then, she becomes a positive spokesperson? Well I'm betting she'll be gone too.
I love her title... "I really don't understand" like is that really possible for maise? She understands everything.. just ask her. You folks are being played, hell, she even got puzzle to buy into it. Even though puzzle would be the next in line.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
1/7/2016 12:39 pm

Maisie, you called me a Bloviator!! But I have forgiven myself. I for one enjoy your blogs and the substance therein in there there. tim


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/7/2016 2:41 pm

    Quoting  :

one thing we know about maisie...is she has figured a lot of things out.

I have been thinking, why is it there are many strong willed opinionated woman on this site, like yourself, and only one on the right. Interesting thought, that must have some meaning.

Anyway, I gave my opinion of that answer on Maggie's blog. I don't profess to know what the real meaning is, I can only guess. But the exactitude of my answer may not be correct, but it's been thought out.
It not my place to give it here, on maissie's blog.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/7/2016 2:54 pm

    Quoting  :

Ya Da Man!

Probably, the only "real" one here

I like your style.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
1/7/2016 5:52 pm

It's obvious who is the Can't Understand Normal Things in the SFF blogs


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2016 10:09 am

    Quoting  :

"currying favor"?

Isn't it funny how I do something that never works and continue to do it.
Some day you'll figure out, I'm not talking about the issues. Left, Right, blue pink, purple.....I don't care.
It's all the same to me, peoples actions about those things are all the same to me. They stand on their own merit, regardless of the issue, regardless of their label
Yeah I attack both sides, because sometimes both sides are wrong.
You see it as my "currying favor". Tell me who that is I'm currying.
You think my opposition to something is always an agreement with the other side. It almost never is.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2016 10:40 am

Quoting Maisie2013:
Ah- for the halcyon days of SFF, when everyone wrote about sunshine and flowers, when we all held hands and sung kumbaya , for when everyone had the same political opinion.

Then enter the Evil Conservative Maisie. She was controversial. She challenged the current Democratic rule. Oh the Horror.
maisie,

I don't dislike you. In some ways I admire you.
But I don't like the way you go about doing it, negativity is overwhelming.

The good old days, weren't so good, just different. There was always hope, Their was enough diversity to find a niche. The battles didn't seem to explode in our face. We had a chance.
We weren't political like we are now.

What I see now is a whole lot of anger and hate, prejudice, ignorance, and disrespect, that use to be a firecracker that is now a bomb.

Maisie, whether one see that as good or bad, or usefull, doesn't matter. Massie, you are responsible, you unleashed that beast.

Since I have been here, no one has had a greater impact on this site than you. In a way I guess that's a tribute to you. but, it wasn't for the good, it wasn't to help, outside of SFF it's not changing anything.
You did it because you could, and that's not a good enough reason for me.