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Then you have to wall off the "sanctuaries". I'm liking this better all the time.
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WE talk about illegals Their language, their job skills, their taking advantage, and their crime for being illegal and crimes to done as the criminals they are. We talk about refugees Their oppression, their homelessness, the struggles to be able to provide for their families, Their wanting a better life. There is something terribly wrong with us. We don't see the truth, we create a truth. We must consider immigrant assimilation, Can we assimilate them, do they want to be assimilated We must consider immigrant culture, are the culture opposing forces, can immigrants accept our culture or do they want to destroy it. We must consider immigrant attitude. What's their purpose, what's their goal, what's their method. These are the most important factors, not whether someone is legal or illegal. Somehow we have confused the label description of what we talk about. Illegals are more refugee than refugees, and refugees are the one's that should be made illegal.
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American need to understand we are at war We are actually considering importing the enemy. How stupid is that? Our war is a cultural one. The most difficult war to win this country has ever faced. We understand that people come here and bring their culture. They keep it their closet, or in their home. That's okay. But this war is with a religious culture. A war that makes the enemy only recognized by the religious label. Those Muslim who cannot separate their culture from their religion are the enemy. Those Muslims who can, are not. I do not know if Muslim can separate the two, I don't know if Muslim want to. No matter if a Muslim, carries a bomb or carries a Koran. Without the separation of culture and religion, they are one and the same. We do not want to defeat the Muslim religion, That is not our choice. We MUST defeat the culture or be defeated. The choice is left to Muslims, not to us.
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More psycho-babble, Jiminy. You don't create a truth, though some philosophers categorize it as a study in metaphysics or the study of what is real. Right up your alley, huh?  Fossil God Save America !! I only have my truth, that's all a I have , You try and create OUR truth, which doesn't exist. You can't understand it, because you don't want to. It okay for God to be your truth. but don't create it as OUR truth. The funny thing, you may be one the few people here who understand it. I can tell that by the way you attack it. Again creating your truth, with deception, to become our truth.
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The personification of the enemy, by the Muslim cultural is America. The world sees that, thinks that, and wants to understand that. The world is blind
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Again you miss the point by a Kansas mile. I said nothing about illegals, I said nothing about my opinion of illegals,. You connected the wrong dots.
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No, I don't create a truth....YOU DO, all the time. I only have my truth, that's all a I have , You try and create OUR truth, which doesn't exist. You can't understand it, because you don't want to. It okay for God to be your truth. but don't create it as OUR truth. The funny thing, you may be one the few people here who understand it. I can tell that by the way you attack it. Again creating your truth, with deception, to become our truth. Not a criticism here. Just a suggestion that I think may help you when the topic of truth arises. (JMHO, so if you don't like my suggestion I won't criticize.) Most people don't consider truth to be relative. Truth is truth whether we grasp it or not. What IS relative, and thus subjective, is our individual interpretations of truth. I sense that is what you mean when you talk about one person's truth vs another, altho I'm not sure everyone else does, so you might want to mention "each person's interpretation of the truth," rather than "their truth." Only mentioning this in an attempt to minimize contentions and disputes in the blogs, especially when there's a good chance that it will help on those occasions where people may find they have more in agreement than they realized. GBU, Gavin
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"ISIS said it is going to attack DC" You must think I not very smart., and in so doing prove to me you're not very perceptive. I shouldn't expect better, I never get anything better. ISIS isn't a thing, ISIS isn't an enemy. ISIS is an idea, supported by a culture When, ,or if, DC is attacked it won't be by ISIS.... it will be by the culture that supports ISIS. you see ISIS, Al Qaeda, and Hezbollah as separate organization of terror, identifiable. To me they are all the same...Say one, Say all. Find the difference if you must, for that is what you do. But the similarity is overwhelming to me.
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Hi Jiminy Not a criticism here. Just a suggestion that I think may help you when the topic of truth arises. (JMHO, so if you don't like my suggestion I won't criticize.) Most people don't consider truth to be relative. Truth is truth whether we grasp it or not. What IS relative, and thus subjective, is our individual interpretations of truth. I sense that is what you mean when you talk about one person's truth vs another, altho I'm not sure everyone else does, so you might want to mention "each person's interpretation of the truth," rather than "their truth." Only mentioning this in an attempt to minimize contentions and disputes in the blogs, especially when there's a good chance that it will help on those occasions where people may find they have more in agreement than they realized. GBU, Gavin That is correct.
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The personification of the enemy, by the Muslim cultural is America. The world sees that, thinks that, and wants to understand that. The world is blind I don't know, I don't pass that kind judgment based on my interpretation of the truth. This is what do believe, whether Obama knows it or not, his approach to this enemy is correct. Those who believe we need to get our piece of flesh, and destroy ISIS. Don't understand the impact that would have on both Muslims and the rest of the world. It play into their hands. We maintain the personification of the enemy, we solidify their resolve. To the world, they also get a free pass, they get to stay out of it, get to maintain their blindness as to who, ISIS real enemy is. France, was wake up call, not to us, but to the world. Probably the biggest mistake ISIS and their stagedy has made. WE cannot allow ISIS a free pass on that, by taking over, from that which is their true enemy.
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11/17/2015 10:59 am |
Maisie, My only issue with dumping them in "sanctuary cities" is they will be treated like royalty. Like the other illegals hiding in plain sight, these new "refugees" will not be held accountable for their crimes and will be voting in the 2016 Presidential election. I suspect most will be Democrats. It will be interesting to watch how this new-found Islamic influx accepts the gay communities in California. I wonder if they will cancel each other out. Fossil God Save America !! I can only imagine the conflict that will happen when their kids go to school and mingle with a very diverse population. Spiritwoman ^i^
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You keep saying the same thing over and over, you deal with what I'm talking about. You're petty, and narrowminded. You think ISIS is affronted to America, You think ISIS is America enemy and that sufficient for you attacking them. I'm not saying you're wrong... I'm saying your petty and narrowminded. I say ISIS is an affront to the non-Muslim world I say the only way this will work is for the non-Muslim world to fight ISIS, not just America....... and America petty vengeance that aide and abets the enemy... We've seen it happen in IRAQ, but you refuse to see it.
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The irony here...is that the conservative element does not want to see what I'm saying, that I'm agreeing with them on a much bigger scale. The only people here that should be disagreeing me, are the LIberals. They are one that shouldn't be able to accept what I am saying.
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Maisie is doing what she consistently does. She operates from generalities and thus seeks to create an "us" versus "them". This approach is misinformed and ludicrous. Taking the number of Muslims that she seeks to lump into one category and the number of "us" in her shallow generalizations, I am betting on the Muslims. If people would stop this inane fear mongering and approach this from a more reasoned standpoint there would be less conflict and less idiocy as represented by those like Maisie. First maisie is not creating the us against them...they have already created it. Secondly, what maisie is actually doing is what I disagree with. She is making it America versus ISIS. A neat little box to define what this is all about. It is her idea that America's great power, and rightness will overcome the enemy. What maisie doesn't understand is that her IDEA of America's great power and rightness, is being used against her. It supports Muslims terrorists and ISIS idea they are conveying to the Muslim World and to the World. It is America's great power and rightness that is to be feared. It is America's great power and rightness that will persecute and destroy anyone's belief in their own rightness. ISIS is trying make the rightness of Islam be challenged by the rightness of America. Wrong has nothing to do with it.. In that regard they are winning. I'm sure Adolpho, you understand, because you do the same thing
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I see and I fear the misinterpretation of what I say. I need to make myself perfectly clear. I hate what muslims do. Can't hate anything more Liberals call it racism, prejudice, religious intolerance, bigotry...call it what you will. I stand by it. What I see, in the Muslim World, I see in a lesser extent here, by both Liberals and Conservatives. The deception, the turning, the convincing, the hatred and the rightness. I must maintain my integrity, I just call it like I see it.
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You create more straw men than a barnyard. I never created "us " and "them". The Jihadists have. maise, this is the problem with you.. The jihadist didn't creat it. The jidahist, have been created. You have chosen the wrong creator. You just try to make it easy to understand, make it simple, make it right. label it to the most negative, Identify it by the negative. that what you do. you do it in everything.
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Is this comment to me? WTF are talking about? I like to think you have the capability to deal with my comment. I guess I'm wrong.
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Yes, We need to allow France to become an enemy, we need to support France in this. What we do not need to do, Is take it over from France, make US the enemy. It's why I think Obama's position is correct. His reasoning, I really don't give a shit about. In my mind it's the right thing to do, I support it, not because it's Obama. Because it's what I believe is in America's best interest. And best way to fight this war. You think it's about who our allies are...I think it's about who their enemies are.
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I wouldnt want any of them in Southern Ireland
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Jiminy, You are really some special kind of obtuse, aren't you? You think that by rephrasing statements that you are some sort of philosophical giant when in reality you are really some dumb schmuck that has shit for brains. Who are the "they" you speak of? You seem to contend that things are created in a vacuum, they exist in nothingness only to be deciphered by the great sage "Jiminy". What a fricken joke your convoluted crap amounts to. A plate of pasta has more logical basis then the crap you spout. Your opinions need to be relegated to a text book on cognitive dissonance. You might begin by pulling your butt out of the wine bottle and trying to get some consistency in your thought process. I see you understood.
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never said US was the first place. I still don't think you realize what I wrote. It's not about what started it. Just let me know you understand what I'm talking about. you don't have to agree.
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You seem to live in a universe with only two polar extremes. You evidence that all of the time. You want this to fit your poorly constructed criteria when all you are accomplish is attempting to put a square peg in a round hole. There are many, many more peaceful Muslims than the few terrorists that gather all of your attention and fuel your fear mongering. I am saddened to find someone, like you, that lives in such a limited world. You know nothing about what Muslims are saying. But then you wouldn't since that doesn't fit your agenda. Try researching "Not in my name" as an alternate view to what you spout. Reports from Belgium and France as well as other European countries clearly indicate the shame that immigrants feel for the actions of a few terrorists. But then you wouldn't allow the intrusion of reality into your world view where every Muslim is a terrorist...someone to be feared, someone to be demonized and someone to ultimately to be bombed and killed. There have been Muslims that have clearly stated their disagreement with the actions of the few...you don't hear them because your mind is closed and your ears are shut. Many disagree with terrorism, condemn the act of terrorism, Hardly any disagree with the cause, disagree with reason for the terrorism. No matter where they live. They are convince their Muslim religion and culture is under attack. They see those who fight, those who do terrorist act as defenders of the faith. But many do condemn the act itself. I'm still working on that idea, to try and make sense of it.
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it always comes down to not what the truth is....but what one thinks the truth means. maisie, I do try and understand...Radical Islam is just words, failure to say those words mean nothing to me. French bombing, Russian bombing, world support for France.....That's what means something to me. The US bombing of ISIS is just the same old shit. Think of it.. the US, the French and the Russians all attacking the same enemy. Not as allies, not because of treaties, simply because each thinks it's the right thing. My God maisie..did you ever think you'd see it...In that light, do you think anyone cares if we call it Radical Islam or not. This, maisie, maybe the only time in History, that in showing our weakness, we are showing our strength. In baseball parlance, we come up to plate trying to hit home run every time. I think it's about time we let ourselves get hit by the pitch and take one for the team.
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I never for a moment, thought Radical Islam could win. But maisie, now, there's no way they can win....Every battle they think is a victory is a dagger to their heart. I knew it before, but now the world knows it. We don't want people on our side, because WE'RE right. We should want to be on their side because it is right It will be our greatest victory over them.
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maisie, please show some integrity You use what happens in the middle east to show what's happening to US Then in turn refuse to acknowledge some one else, who doing the same thing Please do not reference HERE again. You can't use it both ways in your game of semantics. When the fact is HERE doesn't matter. It only describes where you are at (mentally and physically), not where the rest of us are at (both meanings)
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