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GavinLS2 69M
934 posts
8/22/2023 3:11 am
Life Truth according to me.


For every human being, every dream, ambition, or desire of your life is driven by an event that occurred probably before, but no later than the very first time as an infant you heard and understood when mommy said the word "no". You can never get entirely beyond that event. It drives and shapes everything you do for the rest of your days. -Gavin Lee Sutherland

Debate me.

GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
8/22/2023 3:12 am

I'm waiting.


Rocketship 80F
18567 posts
8/22/2023 3:29 am

I think you're probably right about this, Gavin. That's when we first begin to learn how to keep safe from bodily harms.... and the expectations of the adults and of society.


TxJW042 81M

8/22/2023 4:56 am

When I was 20 years old, I witnessed a conversation between a grandfather his grandson. and a hardware store owner who happened to be an ex schoolteacher

The young boy said, Grandpa I want ----------

The grandpa said NO!

Child said WHY NOT?

Grandpa------ BECAUSE I SAID NO!

The ex-schoolteacher (store owner) said -----You should NEVER DO THAT. How will that child learn to think for himself if YOU can't explain your (reasoning) as to WHY he can't do something.

I thought of that conversation often as I raised 3 children. They are now out front. Free thinking movers and shakers

In life NO seldom accomplishes much. LOL


TxJW042 81M

8/22/2023 5:00 am

NO is the easiest decision a person can make other than prayer.


Archer62 83F
7086 posts
8/22/2023 6:58 am

SOUNDS PRETTY CORRECT TO ME. I HAVE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE DOING WHAT MOMMY AND DADDY TOLD ME I COULD NOT DO. AND I AM STILL HERE TO TELL THE TALE.


StarCandy1 69F
1796 posts
8/22/2023 9:25 am

Kids do that ! LOL I try to shop without kids. My friend comes here and always wants to shop. I always find something to buy around her ! Usually for my grandkid though


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
8/22/2023 4:10 pm

Thanks for all the replies. Gonna wait a day or two then explain my original post here.

GBU all,

Gavin


Robyn363 83F
3474 posts
8/23/2023 8:36 am

Its probably true Gavin, the way we react to life from what we were told as infants. However, its a bit more complicated I think. Life has a habit of guiding us along paths that we have no power over.


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
8/24/2023 7:52 pm

To explain my original thread here:

Every infant comes into the world never questioning their own self-worth, or whether they have value at all. And human survival requires acceptance by others because mankind can only survive as a species in groups. So as we grow and develop, we all need to feel a sense of validation. (Others use different terms, such as "significance" or "importance". I just prefer the term validation.) If not before, when a baby first gets a "no" from mother it is his first sense of rejection by the most significant portion of humanity they are familiar with. It's the first sense of a loss of validation.

Because our survival instinctively depends upon group affiliation, validation becomes a motivating drive behind a huge percentage of every choice we make in life. All our ambitions are seen either consciously or subconsciously as a means to achieve recognition from others that we have an inherent value that justifies our place in the world. And the type of validation I'm referring to is that which is to such a degree that one feels it instinctively to be reflected by others opinions of us (or at least what we THINK they think of us.)

Probably the easiest way for most of us to realize this in ourselves, is when we consider what attracts us to a mate. We come up with all sorts of different reasons and descriptions about what we are attracted to, but when we think objectively about it, our basic desire in a mate is a person whom we perceive can validate us by their ultimate acceptance of us. A person may have many attributes that you think you'd want in a mate, but if you don't feel their acceptance of you will validate you, then you just won't really be interested.