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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/4/2017 2:22 pm

Biden said, the other day, that Obamacare was introduced to get Republican imput. The single pay system was a little to over the top . So Obamacare was a compromise. A compromise designed to get Republicans involved.

As we begin the Trump Administration. The idea that he needs to given a chance, see what he can do, .Is the biggest Republican hypocrite statement ever!

I never supported Obamacare.
That being said. the idea of the gang up Republicans against it. was by far the biggest obstruction to any possible viable plan. the Republican never intended to give it chance, to try and make it work. It was always by design of the Republicans to fail.

It was a conspiracy, from those that don't want any government health plan and those that never wanted to see Democrat plan work.

So we need to give Trump a chance?

The main cost factors of Obamacare for premium increases were
pre-existing conditions, age inclusion up to 26 years old, and standardized coverage.

How can the Republicans plan on keeping those things, and lowering premium. It's impossible

The plan for Republican repeal is to begin with financial aspects of Obama care. The mandate of coverage, additional taxes, and lower income support will be nullified. these things will not return.
the availability of the same coverage will stay, but the premium will increase again, as policy holders will drop.
The Republican plan is just as unworkable, as Obamacare.
Everybody who is against government involvement in heath care will get their wish. Those that need help to secure health insurance will get the shaft.
everyone else will just pay more.

We have become a country of takers. the evidence of this is the massive increase in sign up for Obamacare with the election of Trump. The idea of getting it now, because they will have be compensated when it's taken away.
That's the way we roll!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/4/2017 2:35 pm

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I don't want to get too technical.

but from an outside in view. It's the simplest thing in the world.

Increase in the number of insured people should lower the cost per person.

It about insurance , its about cost, it mathematical, it's not disputable.

However Obamacare didn't do that. so one must ask why? Why didn't
Obamacare work to lower premiums, if more people became insured?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/4/2017 2:53 pm

the fact is.....

Many in this country believe that the people who can afford medical attention, should get preferential treatment.

I don't fault that idea. I'm just pointing it out.

the reason people who can afford it, get preferential treatment. is that's the way hospitals and doctors roll.

Any universal health plan basically establishes doctors and Hospitals limits on income. Today's preferential treatment provides unlimited income. Treating those who pay the most, as oppose to a standardized fee.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/4/2017 3:09 pm

In today hospital and doctors world..... direct medical patient expense are not even considered.

A cost of an aspirin may be pennies, fee charged for the cost of the aspirin and administer it, maybe three or more times the cost.

Now if the costs went from pennies to dollars. it only allows the doctors and hospital to charged the patient more for it. they earn multiple of the cost. So for direct medical expenses increased cost is good thing for the hospitals. they don't care to lower their cost and return it to the patients.

both the number of units actually used and the treatments are fairly well maximized. So to make more money increase the actual unit cost, and at least triple it. that's how they roll.


bijou624

1/5/2017 2:31 am

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If you hold down the Ctrl key and move the little wheel on top of your mouse you can enlarge the print on anything.