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Rentier1

11/23/2015 8:08 am

A mass killing happens in Europe, and Americans go nuts.

An American is far more likely to die from an accidental gun discharge than from the actions of an Arab terrorist.

Seems to me that if you want to save American lives it would be far more sensible to ban guns than Syrians.

Perhaps the US need a constitutional amendment on refugees.


bijou624

11/23/2015 8:27 am

Many people seem to worry so much about Syrian refugees coming to the U.S. Since 9/11 about 785,000 refugees have been admitted to the U.S. and only 12 of them have been arrested.

I think people should be more worried about all the gun violence or being shot by the police than being harmed by a refugee.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/23/2015 10:17 am

really like reading your blogs.

unlike others here, you just throw out the information for us to assimilated and decide. I like that.

However, saying that doesn't mean I agree with the point, doesn't mean I follow the path you would like to lead me.

because you are right some things doesn't make you right about all things.

Terrorism isn't just the same thing, by calling it that. Terrorism is terrorists. It can only be define by the terrorist not by the act itself.

There is no such thing as an act of terrorism.. There is only an act of terrorists that defines it. To even considered homegrown terrorist and muslim terrorist as the same thing is stupid.

I agree that ISIS is not a threat to us, if that is your point. Terrorists are our only threat from ISIS.

If you are concerned about homegrown terrorist, the number of events don't matter....You should be doubly concerned about Islamic terrorist

But you can't do that, It goes against liberalism, and the idea of racial profiling. All I got to say it's a good thing, homeland security doesn't agree with you.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/23/2015 10:21 am

    Quoting  :

How can you think what you do, and then do what you do?

Roxy's thoughts of Bush are offensive to you, offensive to your reason?

Yet your thoughts of Obama should not be offensive to us, is not offense to our reason.


spiritwoman45

11/23/2015 10:41 am

If accurate accounting was available we would see that many more people are killed in incidents of local violence such as gang conflicts, mental ill people without treatment and domestic disputes. This is just a guess but given the numbers of deaths reported locally the body count from LA alone probably outnumbers those from terrorism.

Spiritwoman ^i^


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/23/2015 11:16 am

    Quoting  :

The ACT of terrorism
The ACT of terrorists

There is no such thing as the act of terrorism, it can only be defined by the act of a terrorists.

We can call a white cop killing a black kid as terrorism. Just the same as an Islamic terrorist bombing a school bus. But its not the same
Calling it terrorism doesn't make it terrorism. It is defined by the perpetrator not the act itself. Even more importantly the intent of the perpetrator.

So we can have Islamic terrorism, fascist terrorism, pro-life terrorism, Branch divinity terrorism, klu klux clan terrorism.
and even possibly police terrorism.
The noun is only defined by the adjective, It cannot stand alone.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/23/2015 11:28 am

Two different people decide they are going to bomb a bank.

One because the bank foreclosed on his house
One because he intends to rob it.

Some will consider neither an act of terrorism
Some will consider both an act of terrorism

I consider only the one, with the bank foreclosure is a terrorist, as such his act is an act of terrorism.

Both acts result in the same thing, the act itself is not terrorism.


bijou624

11/23/2015 11:44 am

Skariff, just to clarify as certain individuals don't seem to understand my previous reply. I said 785,000 refugees, and did not say 785,000 Syrian refugees.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/23/2015 12:18 pm

Skariff,

So what's my point, and what's your point

As I see it..

Again you talk of compassion and understanding. you're smart to realize what your actually saying

if you can put yourself in the shoes of Middle Eastern Muslims, you can understand. That if the act of terrorism is define by the act, that Muslims have the right to consider everything we do in the Middle East as an act of terrorism.. You know what...That's what they do.
They consider us the terrorists, not them.
In a round about way, you acknowledge that, you defend them, you give them the right to believe that.
WE don't performs acts of terrorism, because WE are not terrorists.
They perform acts of terrorism, because they are terrorists.

Terrorism is defined by the terrorist not the act. So I adamantly disagree with you, that the act of terrorism defines the terrorist.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/24/2015 11:28 am

    Quoting Adolpho:
    My lord, man, have you ever considered that you over-think most things. That your attempts to parse language are really not indicative of high intelligence.
what my overthinking got you down...?

You know Adolpho....I don't like you, whether you say something nice or not about me, doesn't matter to me.

In the whole time you have been here, you have not said anything nice about America. all you talk about is how bad America is. All you talk about is justification for people to do 'bad" things to America.

No one else on this site..is like that.
They have their own right or wrong ideas, that's okay. Some stuff bad, some stuff good about America, I can deal with that.
I have given you every opportunity to change my opinion of you. you have not.

Many people here don't like you, because you're nasty. You treat people bad....Well I don't care about that, nastiness can mean a lot of different things to me. It's not the occasional bad thing you say that bothers me..It's everything you say.
I rarely have a personal opinion, about people here. I think if I ever met leaf or big or maisie or litzst. I could like them as a person. It's funny because my disagreement people has very little to do with my personal opinion. It is my sense that, I know I would like big, if I ever met him, and I tend to disagree with him the most
Can't say the same thing about you.....
I don't like you now and if ever we were to meet. I know I still wouldn't like you.