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Sometimes the depth of ignorance is astounding - you have to laugh or you would cry In perhaps the most amusing effort to discredit US President Barack Obama's plan for nationalized health care - if not the most ridiculous - US financial newspaper Investor's Business Daily has said that if Stephen Hawking were British, he would be dead. "The controlling of medical costs in countries such as Britain through rationing, and the health consequences thereof, are legendary," read an editorial from the paper. "The stories of people dying on a waiting list or being denied altogether read like a horror script... "People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." The paper has since been notified that Hawking is both British and still among the living. And it has edited the editorial, acknowledging that the original version incorrectly represented the whereabouts of perhaps the world's most famous scientific mind. But it has not acknowledged that its mention of Hawking misrepresented the NHS as well. "I wouldn’t be here today if it were not for the NHS," Hawking told The Guardian. "I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived." The best you can say about Investor's Business Daily is that unlike US radio talk host Rush Limbaugh, it has not compared Obama's health care logo to a swastika |
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2/24/2015 12:10 pm |
Did they really publish that? The Yanks have accused our commie health care of the same sin. Apparently thousands of Canadians die each year because they are waiting lists for medical treatment..
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Oh my goodness, bondjam!! How interesting that Investor's Business Daily seems not to have fact checkers, especially about such a famous individual. I'm so happy that I have Canadian healthcare! I can only talk about my family and my experiences with our healthcare system. It's the greatest! **I wrote a blog, 'Healthcare in Canada' ,back in 2012, which folks can check out. We, as a family, have not experienced the long wait times etc. that are mentioned in the article above. Service times are allocated on a scale from emergencies to elective issues. For example, a heart patient will get priority over a cataract removal patient, but both will receive treatment.
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His title, "Sometimes the depth of ignorance is astounding - you have to laugh or you would cry" Now, just think someone would post this who has stated he would never visit America because of their guns when there are many thousands of Americans buried in England giving their lives with guns in their hands to keep him from speaking 'German!! I am wondering if his ancestors felt they were the "depth of igrnoance"' . The beginning of life, conception..
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His title, "Sometimes the depth of ignorance is astounding - you have to laugh or you would cry" Now, just think someone would post this who has stated he would never visit America because of their guns when there are many thousands of Americans buried in England giving their lives with guns in their hands to keep him from speaking 'German!! I am wondering if his ancestors felt they were the "depth of igrnoance"' The fact that my wife (not me - so get your facts straight) will not visit the USA because of the number of gun crimes and the tens of thousands of people murdered every year by people with guns has NOTHING to do with ignorance but with a perception gained from an analysis of the available evidence. Of what does this display an ignorance? Your oft repeated (one might even call it hackneyed) statement about Americans giving their lives with guns in their hands is an incredible stretch from the salient point on which my title was based - the incontestable ignorance of the editorial writer of a daily newspaper which claims a readership of "nearly 1,000,000 " who did not know that Stephen Hawking is British and has always been treated by the NHS. If you wish to refute the fact that this editorial displays ignorance of the most important fact on which it was promulgated then please state your reasons for disputing my original statement.
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You have been and will always be to me nothing more than a suppository of knowledge. . The beginning of life, conception..
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Classic fail gas - I challenged you to come up with a refutation of the fact that this editorial displayed ignorance -- you respond with an irrelevant insult.
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Here's another from the LA Times:Britain's cherished, lousy National Health Service Two studies show that the National Health Service performs poorly compared to other nations. Yet the British were the most satisfied with their healthcare of all the populations surveyed. Additionally this has nothing to do with the topic of the blog. The editorial was promulgated on uncontestable ignorance of an absolute fact. If you wish to argue that point state your case or do another blog of your own on a different topic.
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2/24/2015 8:29 pm |
I must be the one exception to Canadians having to wait so long for medical treatment. The only time I have waited longer than three months is when I canceled one appointment because it conflicted with a trip I had planned. The one time I did encounter an reasonable wait was when I developed a secondary cataract after cataract surgery. My optometrist agreed the wait was unreasonable. He simply called another ophthalmologist and got me in ten days later. The fix was done the same day.
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CRAZY HORSE - Be careful when posting detailed reports with a significant propaganda bent to them. Your LA Times article stands condemned by its own opening paragraphs QUOTE " In April, the British Medical Journal published an article about two studies conducted by the New York-based Commonwealth Fund. The studies compared the healthcare systems of 14 advanced countries, and on the 20 measures of comparison,Britain's centralized National Health Service performed well in 13, indifferently in two and badly in five. On several measures, the NHS came out the worst of all the systems examined. For example, it ranked worst for five-year survival rates in cervical, breast and colon cancers. It was also worst for 30-day mortality rates after admission to a hospital for either hemorrhagic or ischemic stroke. On only one clinical measure was it best: the avoidance of amputation of the foot in diabetic gangrene. This hardly seems like a cause for national rejoicing, yet according to the report, the British were the most satisfied with their healthcare of all the populations surveyed. They were the most confident that in the event of illness, they would receive the best and most up-to-date treatment; and they were the least worried that their personal finances would prevent them from receiving proper treatment." The report mentions 20 measures on which the NHS performed well in 13 , indifferently in 2 and badly in 5. As a measure of success I would take 13 wins, 2 draws and 5 losses as pretty damn good. In fact it would win almost any competiton I can think of. For the article to then go on to pick out the two worst performance indicators and use them as the basis for its condemnation is laughably biased. Try reading your own propaganda piece again and you will see that, far from making a case against the NHS , it actually gives it a pretty good write up until you get to the slanted opinion of the writer after the initial statement of real facts. If you analyse the twenty indicators you find that the NHS is worst in 2, best in 1 , performing well in 12 others (13 in total), performing indifferently in 2 and performing badly in 3 others (5 in total). How can any right thinking individual interpret that in any way but as a ringing endorsement of the system? in
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2/25/2015 5:49 am |
I have never encountered a wait for any medical treatment...........The only situations I have heard of were regarding voluntary procedures such as vaginal tightening for increased sexual enjoyment and the reason it was delayed was because the urologist was piled up with a very unusual number of emergency surgeries..... I have two friends who have waited far longer than they want. One in Alberta, the other in BC. Both are supporters of the system we have.
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2/25/2015 6:07 am |
Hi Bondjam; I'm Canadian and so grateful for our health care. We don't have to keep files or make phone calls about our insurance because there's never any problem...if our doctor says we need to see a specialist or have surgery the government pays for it. I was employed making a decent salary and in all these years I've never had to pay one penny in premiums or co-payments and I've never experienced any long waits either. In fact, a few years ago I discovered a lump and within two days I had an appointment with a surgeon and two days later I was in the operating room. No-one I know in Canada is complaining about our health care because they don't have any complaints.
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