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Adolpho 68M
3303 posts
10/19/2016 11:32 pm
Andrew Sullivan Live Blogs the Debate

10:43 p.m. I’m going to end with a Republican president who was worthy of the office, a man who understood our democracy and whose decency now compels him to vote for Hillary Clinton. Here is George H. W. Bush’s letter to Bill Clinton, who denied him a second term. This is America:



10:36 p.m. In my view, this was easily the most decisive debate. She devastated him. He melted down. His refusal to accept the results of this election disqualifies him automatically from any office in the United States. There were several areas where he was utterly incoherent, grasping at “facts”, without any understanding of policy. His personal foulness emerged.

It seems to me he also has internalized that he has lost this election. May God save this democracy from him.

10:32 p.m. Trump’s penultimate interruption: “Such a nasty woman.” She was just making a fair point, Donald.

10:30 p.m. I have a feeling that when historians observe these debates in the future, the thing they will most note is that nothing was said about climate change.

10:28 p.m. Her point about Trump complaining about Ronald Reagan was a stunner. She has been superb tonight – and got better as she continued.

10:27 p.m. In 2012, Trump thought it was rigged as well:
10:23 p.m.

Ryan Lizza ✔ @RyanLizza

Yes, it happened: Trump admires Assad more than Obama

10:2o p.m. He’s now free associating and falling apart. He just doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. And surely viewers will see that. That was a completely unhinged rant. And “good luck with that, Hillary,” implies that he already thinks she will be president. He’s now in full collapse.

10:19 p.m. I don’t think he knows what “fallen” means.

10:18 p.m. Another fact-check:

It is utterly disqualifying for any office in the United States, let alone the presidency. Trump is an utter disgrace and so is the party that nominated him. The GOP must now disavow him, if it is to remain a viable party in a constitutional democracy.

10:11 p.m.

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Gabriel Sherman ✔ @gabrielsherman
"I'll keep you in suspense" works well for season finales but not elections
7:09 PM - 19 Oct 2016
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10:08 p.m. “Horrifying” is the right word. Clinton is devastating him on his appalling refusal to obey the rules that this democracy lives by.

10:04 p.m. Trump will not say in advance that he will respect the results of the election. This is the first time ever that a candidate for the presidency has refused to abide by the result. He is a threat to our entire democratic system.

10:01 p.m. “It’s a criminal enterprise” to save 11 million living with HIV.

9:58 p.m. She is masterful tonight on his core character. Her answer to the last question destroyed him. I suspect he knows he’s finished. Surely the country sees who this monster is by now.

9:57 p.m.

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Jordan Weissmann ✔ @JHWeissmann
“If we could run our country the way I run my company” may be the most terrifying words Trump has ever spoken.
6:52 PM - 19 Oct 2016 · Brooklyn, NY, United States
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9:55 p.m. Clinton’s response on sexual assault – the way she exposed how he belittles and demeans women – was calm, composed and powerful.

9:53 p.m. “I didn’t even apologize to my wife.” He’s a disgrace.

9:50 p.m.

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emily nussbaum ✔ @emilynussbaum
I know Chris Wallace is using right-wing frames for his q's. But he's ALSO questioning Trump. And she's re-framing everything calmly.
6:51 PM - 19 Oct 2016
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9:49 p.m. Clinton’s defense of her experience against Trump’s was devastatingly good.

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daveweigel ✔ @daveweigel
Clinton is right, btw -- the "open borders" remark was about energy trading.
6:33 PM - 19 Oct 2016
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9:46 p.m. Does Trump understand the difference between a developing country and a mature economy? Don’t answer that.

9:45 p.m. Finally, she’s communicating her economic policy in a way that can persuade. And her critique of his massive tax cuts must surely hit home.

9:41 p.m. Again, he’s talking about NATO and the Pacific alliance as if it’s a protection racket. Now he’s saying he wants to “terminate” NAFTA. Does he know what would happen to the economy if he suddenly rescinded free trade with Canada and Mexico? Does he understand what trade wars do to economies?

9:40 p.m. A throwback to an earlier moment in this debate on Putin:

9:36 p.m. Trump has now declared the U.S. will not defend Japan or Germany. He wants to rip up the post-WWII international order – one of the most peaceful periods in world history.

9:33 p.m. It’s so strange that Trump cannot agree with the U.S. intelligence services that Russia is behind this intervention in American politics. Clinton wins this exchange decisively.

9:31 p.m. Clinton is going on the offensive on the Putin question. She’s absolutely right to. And he cannot answer her.

9:29 p.m. She has no good answer on her private remarks about her dream of open borders in the Western hemisphere. And so she tries to shift the question to Putin’s role in Wikileaks. Trump is right: that was a nifty pivot, and he exposed her.

9:27 p.m. It’s amazing to me that Trump has been the one to point out how Obama has deported a record number of illegal aliens and how Clinton supports a wall. He’s making them more credible to conservatives and independents.

9:23 p.m. Why doesn’t Clinton really emphasize border enforcement? Her answer on the un-American notion of rounding up millions of people was very strong. But she needs to own the border security issue more forthrightly. Then she reminded people that Donald Trump has exploited illegal immigrants.

This is a portion of the comments made by conservative Andrew Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan seems to have a clear view of Mr. Trump...sadly some conservatives on this site have stated they intend to vote for him. This may be due to commonality of how they view the world and more importantly women.

Donald Trump is widely recognized by conservatives as being sexist and misogynistic...what horrible traits to share with him.

If Donald Trump will not readily accept the results of this election, why do some conservatives not realize that he may well refuse any further elections once he is elected to office.

This leads me to say
Vote For Anyone Other Than Donald Trump



bijou624

10/20/2016 3:32 am

Trump's yahoo supporters were out yelling and screaming all day yesterday and disrupted CNN's live coverage so you could barely hear what anyone was saying all day long. I was hoping the police would come and take all of them to the loony bin.

Listening to Trump during the debate he looks and talks like he's become totally deranged. If he loses who knows what he's capable of?? All I can see in him is a selfish, arrogant con man and bully and to think he could possibly be president of anything is beyond belief.

Hillary is an amazing debater. The only fault I've ever had with her is the way she smiles smugly and her exaggerated facial expressions, but during the last two debates she isn't doing that anymore. Now she appears presidential and I sure hope she wins. She said straight out last night that when a president gives the order to launch a nuclear weapon, that order must be carried out within four minutes. How terrifying to think of a short tempered bully like President Trump having that power.


bijou624

10/20/2016 6:42 am

p.s. That letter from President Bush Sr is so dignified. That's what the peaceful transfer of power is all about, respecting the legitimacy of the electoral system and not suggesting the results were rigged and inciting your supporters to commit violence. I hope Trump gets to read that letter.