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Trolls and Vampires I found this article this AM. A lot of it goes along with current discussions of trolls. If you allow them to put you in any of the situations listed in the article they can be dangerous. Numbers 2 and 5 specifically apply. I wonder how many of us might be far freer to discuss things of substance if we did not need to “shrink” ourselves to avoid the barbs? I know I have to hold back but fortunately this comes easily and does not take any of my energy. There is another side to this which is not allowing those who do “let it all hang out” to take our energy by engaging us on an emotional level. We know there are those who are caught up in the drama. People leave and take breaks regularly because they find the drama draining their energy. Granted those who announce and explain it may have additional motives but I am certain that many many folks have left because they find the drama too draining. It is extremely difficult to cruise above it. I had a career wallowing in drama with my roll being to sort it out. Even then I have to remind myself often that drama here is usually not real and even when it is I am not responsible for sorting out let alone do anything about it. Besides it's application here there are some points that may be useful for consideration by those who find themselves chronically drained of energy 9 Signs You Are Being Energetically Drained When we talk about vampires we are not talking about the depiction in films/television. We are not talking about literal blood suckers. We are using the ‘vampire’ reference for a non voluntary feeding that is taking place on our life force energy from living consciousness either in the physical or non-physical realms and on all levels of your Being-ness – physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. 1. You feel drained after being in someone’s presence or a phone conversation, your energy has been leached, especially when someone has been talking AT you instead of WITH you. 2. Trying to fit in. When you have to shrink yourself to fit into a group, to be less than so that you are liked and accepted. 3. Being a ‘yes’ person, a ‘go-to’ person, a doormat, doing what others want you to do even when you don’t want to. And then you become mad with yourself because you know you are being manipulated you still don’t do anything about it. 4. Having intimacy without both partners actually loving each other. 5. Participating in drama of any kind. These are situations of miscommunication that get blown out of proportion. This is a huge energy suck and drainer. 6. In an abusive situation. Narcissistic personalities are famous energy drainers and takers. They intimidate, physically or emotionally abuse, belittle, and confuse. The energy entanglement with a narcissist may take lots of help and a considerable amount of self strength to get untangled from. 7. Worshipping a guru, celebrity or other Being, physical or nonphysical, outside of yourself. Your energy and power is being freely and intentionally delivered to one outside of yourself. It is okay to read books and follow someone for more knowledge, but dedicating your life to a another person who you think will bring you happiness may be detrimental. 8. Someone important in your life is saying they can’t live without you, they wouldn’t know how to live without you, and the famous one “If you loved me you would ____”. This might be said out of love, but the implications are more serious than the person may know. 9. Experiencing chronic fatigue and no matter how many health drinks/food/supplements/exercises you do; your energy is still low. It is also a good idea to see if there is a physical condition as well when in chronic fatigue such as candida and fungus overgrowth. Spiritwoman ^i^ |
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Good blog Spirit and the points are spot on! All of us come to this site with baggage, warts, and all. Most of us joined this site looking for friends and pleasant conversation. Why some chose to use it to batter others has always been a mystery to me. I tend to focus on those who, no matter their situation, have joy in their hearts so it's not a draining experience in here for me .
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Some things may be physical, others spiritual or a combination of both. Toxic people will always be with us so I just do what I want to do and sail through whatever stuff they want to throw at me, either by ignoring or pinning them to a response that quite often is not forthcoming because of either shame or inaction etc on the very topic they present. One example is the one of where is God and the little kids starving picture/post. I countered with the fact I'm doing something about it, and what was she doing? So far no reply to that. So I guess nothing is the answer, and when answering something it's mostly off topic and insulting. These are just the people in our world and the issue to me is not getting upset about it, but what is my response? I'm the only one I have power over. Hang in there. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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I was told by my sister and her husband that I was always a doormat! Maybe I was but not now. As regards my faith I think it is private to me. I believe in God and I understand what Dan is saying about his faith and belief in God. Maybe some people who ridicule him or anyone who mentions a God in their lives are just plain jealous. I would never have been able to get through some terriible things that happened in my life if I didnt believe in a life after this. We fill it up as best we can, have episodes of sheer happiness and total depression.We shouldnt take notice of what these people say, we dont know them and will never meet them, at least I wont as its so frightening to travel anywhere any more. Be courageous in your thinking and offering your opinion, and f..k the begrudgers. As Bob says to me many times, shit happens, and this too shall pass.
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I am one of those who recall when this site was a pleasure to visit and we all used to enjoy visiting the site and meeting our friends. I'm afraid most of us can no longer say that, can we? Alfie...
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Troll Alert The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.
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Thank you for posting this... No pointing fingers, not blaming, just trying to enlighten. You and I know, when one does that it's not to educate others, or convince others. It's to remind ourselves, to put our thoughts in focus. What others choose to do with it, is their business. I need it too, I need to be reminded. What happens here in the scheme of things is not important, it's not world ending. No matter how right we are, we can't change it, and tell people what to see. It is in the understanding of others, that we can try to understand ourselves. I have learned a lot here, not so much about others, but about myself. So the way I see it, the importance here is only in the lessons we can learn, The heartache, and the problems, and the fatigue are all about the lessons we try to teach.
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I am one of those who recall when this site was a pleasure to visit and we all used to enjoy visiting the site and meeting our friends. I'm afraid most of us can no longer say that, can we? Alfie... Alfie, Sorry to see you jumped over the fence. It's not fun. I know you'll be able to give up on it, but it's hard to forget, hard to accept. It's not about the way you see it. Your thinking is absolutely right. But being right doesn't really matter. It may just seems difficult to teach and old dog new tricks. But it's impossible to teach an old bird to fly differently. When they can fly no more, they will just nest and think of their good old flying days. Sure we can try and ignore them, and see if it goes away. But it never goes very far away. Deal with it, or don't deal with it....but don't make it an issue, we already have enough of those here. Most importantly, it's not good for you to crash and burn, when in the process of figuring out who's to blame. When we're all to blame. When someone tries to get your goat... it more about the garbage they eat, than your Billy club!
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1/9/2016 10:12 am |
I think we all have a relative or 2 like this. One of my aunts would always do the intrusive question thing then launch into her tirade about how sick she was and how she would not "be here" the next time I came to visit. 30 years later I did indeed visit and not find her there. Emotions - In my experience we all have them and can create all sorts of issues if we do not acknowledge them. What is needed is having "filters" or control over expressing them and when and how to share our reactions. I frequently have self discussions when I know what I am feeling is not OK or OK but not for public acknowledgement. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:18 am |
I am glad you feel OK sharing thoughts with me. It's sad you feel restrained by those who choose to pick at your ideas. I see your situation with a couple of folks as them just pushing your hot buttons. They do the same with everyone. If I had the power to change things in any way it would be having everyone just keep on speaking what is their truth and EVERYONE ignoring the rest. Unfortunately as I used to tell my kids I was not consulted when the universe was set in motion. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:23 am |
Enjoy your secession. One of my neighbors is in the process of advancing her Reiki skills. Another neighbor and I get lots of good energy being her "practice". She is going to India in March to study with one of the recognized masters. I'm envious of her freedom to focus on herself. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:34 am |
You are so correct about it being only a handful of people who create the unpleasantness here. It is a shame that the rest of us can not just ignore them a.nd "keep on truckin'" but being human seems to get in the way of that. I think that by the time we reach our stage in life most of us have had more than enough drama and have learned to stay away from more. I wonder what the few who have not might have missed along the way. I would like to see more people share their struggles, battles and challenges. It is inspiring and encouraging to see how others have been successful as well as comforting to share with those still struggling. Comfort and encouragement seem to have given way to inflicting pain and laughing at suffering throughout our social world these days. As a result we are becoming a more and more hardened and defensive culture and in the process becoming completely insensitive to the world around us. Back in the days of having a day job I often found that all some people needed was just someone who would listen and encourage. Sad state of affairs when we have to turn to a paid professional to provide what everyone should be freely provided by all. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:39 am |
Good blog Spirit and the points are spot on! All of us come to this site with baggage, warts, and all. Most of us joined this site looking for friends and pleasant conversation. Why some chose to use it to batter others has always been a mystery to me. I tend to focus on those who, no matter their situation, have joy in their hearts so it's not a draining experience in here for me . Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:45 am |
Some things may be physical, others spiritual or a combination of both. Toxic people will always be with us so I just do what I want to do and sail through whatever stuff they want to throw at me, either by ignoring or pinning them to a response that quite often is not forthcoming because of either shame or inaction etc on the very topic they present. One example is the one of where is God and the little kids starving picture/post. I countered with the fact I'm doing something about it, and what was she doing? So far no reply to that. So I guess nothing is the answer, and when answering something it's mostly off topic and insulting. These are just the people in our world and the issue to me is not getting upset about it, but what is my response? I'm the only one I have power over. Hang in there. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:51 am |
I was told by my sister and her husband that I was always a doormat! Maybe I was but not now. As regards my faith I think it is private to me. I believe in God and I understand what Dan is saying about his faith and belief in God. Maybe some people who ridicule him or anyone who mentions a God in their lives are just plain jealous. I would never have been able to get through some terriible things that happened in my life if I didnt believe in a life after this. We fill it up as best we can, have episodes of sheer happiness and total depression.We shouldnt take notice of what these people say, we dont know them and will never meet them, at least I wont as its so frightening to travel anywhere any more. Be courageous in your thinking and offering your opinion, and f..k the begrudgers. As Bob says to me many times, shit happens, and this too shall pass. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:52 am |
I am one of those who recall when this site was a pleasure to visit and we all used to enjoy visiting the site and meeting our friends. I'm afraid most of us can no longer say that, can we? Alfie... Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:55 am |
Thank you for posting this... No pointing fingers, not blaming, just trying to enlighten. You and I know, when one does that it's not to educate others, or convince others. It's to remind ourselves, to put our thoughts in focus. What others choose to do with it, is their business. I need it too, I need to be reminded. What happens here in the scheme of things is not important, it's not world ending. No matter how right we are, we can't change it, and tell people what to see. It is in the understanding of others, that we can try to understand ourselves. I have learned a lot here, not so much about others, but about myself. So the way I see it, the importance here is only in the lessons we can learn, The heartache, and the problems, and the fatigue are all about the lessons we try to teach. Spiritwoman ^i^
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1/9/2016 10:57 am |
I'm sorry But What Liszt said is Hilarious--Enough Said!! Spiritwoman ^i^
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