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spiritwoman45
22314 posts
1/28/2015 10:01 pm
Education VS Training


A few days ago I was responding to a blog about 2 years of free college. I wrote a rather lengthy (for SFF) comment about my experience working with both students and Voc. Rehab , pointing out the need for actual vocational training along with education. Education enhances a person's knowledge and helps them develop as a person and human being but if it is not accompanied by actual training (in this case vocational training as well as social skills training) the individual is not likely to be any more employable with the 2 years of additional education.

A couple of days later I came across an article about the definitions of education and training. The following is an excerpt from that article. It defines the difference between education and training. The article was written by and for medical professionals but can be applied across the board.

The Difference Between Education and Training
--by Rachel Naomi Remen, Jan 28, 2015

For me, the process of education is intimately related to the process of healing. The root word of education -- educare -- means to lead forth a hidden wholeness in another person. A genuine education fosters self-knowledge, self-trust, creativity and the full expression of one’s unique identity. It gives people the courage to be more. Yet over the years so many health professionals have told me that they feel personally wounded by their experience of professional school and profoundly diminished by it. This was my experience as well.

It has made me wonder. Perhaps what we have all experienced is not an education at all but a training, which is something quite different. Certainly in medicine the training dimension of schooling has become more and more central and assumed a greater importance as the many techniques of the scientific approach have been developed. The goal of a training is competence and repeatability. Uniqueness is often discouraged and may even be viewed as dangerous.


The rest of the article goes on to talk about competency being critical, particularly in the medical field, but that education should not be neglected. Interesting thoughts.


Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

1/29/2015 9:41 am

    Quoting  :

I know that one all too well. While I did manage to find professional employment most of the time there were those times when I was in transition and needed a job now while waiting the professional hiring process. What saved the day was the fact that I could type. Back in those days if you could type, could answer a phone, were blond and had passable looks you could always get a job. Of course I always omitted the fact that I had 2 college degrees. One time I applied at manufacturing company for shift work on the line. It paid well and fit my schedule. Their response/ Oh, no - you are front office material. That only paid about a third as much. Truth be told I hate clerical work and would have been really good working "o the line".

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

1/29/2015 9:44 am

    Quoting  :

In many occupations, like yours and mine, continuing education is required, but it is usually job and task oriented training type stuff.

I have always managed my own "continuing education" and agree that it is a lifelong process. It is great to have the time to learn what I want when I want it, although as evidenced by this and other blogs I write a good deal of my self education is related to my occupational areas.


Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

1/29/2015 9:49 am

    Quoting LeafTreat:
    I was involved in the training part for many years. Training was ALWAYS much more rewarding when I delivered it to people who were clearly more educated than others. I had to adapt to that in lots of different ways. It made me appreciate the exact same dynamic that educators face with their students. Years later I thought about that and then it became much easier to understand why I responded to some of my college professors better than others. It boils down to where you sit in relation to the median. As a software developer I encountered a lot of really smart people. It didn't take long for me to recognize who would succeed and who would not, in that field of work. No amount of 'training' was going to compensate for a lack of 'inductive' reasoning. It was always the inductive thinkers that I always sought to hire. The fascinating, although frustrating part, was that you were never sure what exactly was going through the inductive thinkers mind...not really. More often than not it turned out to be amazing. Deductive thinkers are not as interesting, or they are plumbers.
Sharing a home with a programmer / engineer I can certainly see your point. Programming / software development is one of those areas that require a high level of technical skill but also calls for creativity becasue you are constantly problem solving. That creativity is definitely different from from the free form creativity I use in art work. It is also different from the "street smarts" needed for my work as a social worker.

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

1/29/2015 10:38 pm

    Quoting  :

I'm sure the people make it worthwhile and interesting. Nothing is ever dull when dealing with the public - frustrating and exhausting at times but never dull.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Rentier1

1/31/2015 8:30 am

    Quoting spiritwoman45:
    Sharing a home with a programmer / engineer I can certainly see your point. Programming / software development is one of those areas that require a high level of technical skill but also calls for creativity becasue you are constantly problem solving. That creativity is definitely different from from the free form creativity I use in art work. It is also different from the "street smarts" needed for my work as a social worker.
Programing requires linear thinking a lot more than creativity.
I hated programmers who wanted to be 'creative'.
They wrote code that was difficult to understand.


spiritwoman45

1/31/2015 10:13 am

    Quoting Rentier1:
    Programing requires linear thinking a lot more than creativity.
    I hated programmers who wanted to be 'creative'.
    They wrote code that was difficult to understand.
That is why we have all had to struggle through Windows 8.1 and all of the stuff they thought we would like.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Rentier1

2/2/2015 6:33 pm

    Quoting spiritwoman45:
    That is why we have all had to struggle through Windows 8.1 and all of the stuff they thought we would like.
Windows 8 does require creativity.

Logical linear thinking isn't much help trying to figure it out.

I still can't find anything that resembles a file manager.