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spiritwoman45
22314 posts
3/23/2014 1:10 pm
If Someone is Hurting…………….


Would you kick them while they are down?

Reading through all of the recent controversies this morning I was struck by a flash of insight. It’s probably been obvious to most for some time but somehow I missed it. When someone here is suffering physically we do not hesitate to flood them with support and good wishes. However, when one of our group shows signs of mental or emotional anguish many attack and few offer support.

I am going to use the following situation as an example. Please do not get the idea that this is my conclusion on things because as with most things I do not have enough information or personal knowledge to draw any conclusions, nor is it my place to pass judgments. It’s just another one of those things the Higher Power did without consulting me. Taking things to the worst possible scenario as some suggest that Julie is Jan what would that tell us? That our friend Jan is hurting and suffering and needs our support and concern now more than ever. She would be no less in crisis than she would be from a heart attack. In fact it would actually be a heart attack, just of a different sort.

Do we really need to know anything more than someone we know is in pain to offer comfort? Are the details all that important? Where is our faith? Where is our compassion? Perhaps because I have spent a lifetime in the position of being the member of the health care team that provides the emotional support I am more aware of this.

Anyone in any sort of pain has my support. Some see this is a waste of effort but I believe that love (the agape, unconditional kind) heals just as well as medicine. Working together they accomplish miracles.


Spiritwoman ^i^


honeycup12 83F
886 posts
3/23/2014 1:19 pm

A good Blog. Preach on sister.


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
3/23/2014 3:09 pm

Shame on you Mrsjoe. You show yourself to be both idiotic and biased.

Jano has stated several times that she lived in a remote area and the distance from her house to the nearest hospital is irrelavent because any person that believes that anyone, other than a very close relative or perhaps a life partner, would visit a comatose patient twice a day would be very gullible.


spiritwoman45

3/23/2014 4:07 pm

    Quoting Bumpkin2013:

    So Jano is not sick, but just Mental?
    This is getting stupider by the day .
    I don't even know her, but it';s upsetting me .
Please re-read. You missed the entire point.

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

3/23/2014 4:09 pm

    Quoting  :

Point is it doesn't matter.

Spiritwoman ^i^


ltw222 75M
7793 posts
3/23/2014 4:41 pm



I agree with you sw. It does not matter who Julie is; JANO has always been my friend and shall remain so.

Lee


Live today as if it is your last
For tomorrow will soon be in the past


ltw222 75M
7793 posts
3/23/2014 4:50 pm

    Quoting Bumpkin2013:

    So Jano is not sick, but just Mental?
    This is getting stupider by the day .
    I don't even know her, but it';s upsetting me .


Mental us also a form of sickness. How does our empathy with our friend make us stupid and, if so, why does it upset you?

Lee


Live today as if it is your last
For tomorrow will soon be in the past


spiritwoman45

3/23/2014 5:46 pm

    Quoting  :

You make my point so perfectly. So many look down on those down on their luck not realizing that in a heartbeat, through no fault of their own this could be them or their family. Certainly your situation was not one of your doing or anything you would have chosen.

You were no less in need of compassion than those with health issues. A place to sleep, a shower, a hot meal with friends, an evening watching TV, a ride to an appointment, just someone to talk to. Small things but I bet they would have made a difference.

Most of us do know how you feel about dogs. For so many of us they are indeed man or woman's best friend.


Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

3/23/2014 6:06 pm

    Quoting  :

Ditto on what you and mrsjoe said about comatose patients. Contact is encouraged by medical staff because it is unknown how much the patient is aware of but having friends and family to talk to and encourage them appears to be helpful. All friends are encourages to participate. When my sister was on this situation someone was with her 24/7. This included family and friends. It can be very difficult for someone without close family and a solid circle of friends. Off the topic but anyone with friends or family in this condition needs to be encouraged to visit and interact as if the person hears them. I have a personal experience that I will share later.

Spiritwoman ^i^


ltw222 75M
7793 posts
3/24/2014 2:01 am

    Quoting Bumpkin2013:

    LTW 222.
    I have logged in specially to apologise for my wording.
    It was NOT meant for hurting any of Jan's Friends.
    I was really asking , in the WRONG way, If the poster was implying That Jan was stupid.
    Mental Illness is no joke, and certainly is an illness.
    Your empathy for your friend is admirable, and I wasn't implying that her friends were stupid.
    I am sincerely sorry .

Hi Bumpkin,

I have retread the blog and your comment and you are right. The wording is a bit confusing. Thank you for the explanation and no apologies are needed.

Lee


Live today as if it is your last
For tomorrow will soon be in the past


spiritwoman45

3/24/2014 11:18 am

    Quoting  :

I wondered about the treatment plan myself but I have noticed from post from our Aussie members and some of our EU members that medical treatments are different. I know from a recent personal experience that they are very different in Mexico.

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

3/24/2014 11:20 am

    Quoting  :

People are all very different with respect to what they choose to share or not share about their illnesses. Some want to share none, some every detail. The trick is determining which it is and lending support for their choice.

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

3/24/2014 11:22 am

    Quoting  :

Exactly!

Spiritwoman ^i^


spiritwoman45

3/24/2014 6:29 pm

    Quoting  :

Thanks for the first hand info. From what I knew about Australia it seemed as it would be this way. Also confirms my thoughts on Jan's treatment plan.

Spiritwoman ^i^


FreshEmerald

3/24/2014 7:05 pm

Jano is ill?

Sorry, I have been away and don't know nuttin'.

I just wish the best for many of the people here.


spiritwoman45

3/24/2014 8:20 pm

    Quoting FreshEmerald:
    Jano is ill?

    Sorry, I have been away and don't know nuttin'.

    I just wish the best for many of the people here.
Yes, she is another on our sick list with lots of controversy about what's going on. Bottom line is that things are not well with her.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Rentier1

3/26/2014 5:53 am

A comment on mine was denied for "banned_topic". Anyone knows what that means?


spiritwoman45

3/26/2014 1:17 pm

    Quoting Rentier1:
    A comment on mine was denied for "banned_topic". Anyone knows what that means?
No idea but I'd love to know what you said. sometimes I agree with you sometimes not but I always love your unique comments.

Spiritwoman ^i^


Rentier1

3/27/2014 5:13 am

    Quoting spiritwoman45:
    No idea but I'd love to know what you said. sometimes I agree with you sometimes not but I always love your unique comments.
I said that the things most people complain about here are attributable to themselves.

So while I won't kick someone when they are down, I may not have a whole lot of sympathy either.

If you smoke 50 a day for most of you life, and then have to drag an oxygen tank everywhere, I am unable to dip deeply into my limited reservoir of fraternal feeling for you.


spiritwoman45

3/27/2014 12:29 pm

    Quoting Rentier1:
    I said that the things most people complain about here are attributable to themselves.

    So while I won't kick someone when they are down, I may not have a whole lot of sympathy either.

    If you smoke 50 a day for most of you life, and then have to drag an oxygen tank everywhere, I am unable to dip deeply into my limited reservoir of fraternal feeling for you.
Great way of putting what I told Maudie in response. Yes, everyone is forgiven but that does not mean you will not have to suffer the consequences of your action. People tend to confuse the 2. No matter how people feel about things everything has consequences. It's called self responsibility, something lacking these days.

Spiritwoman ^i^