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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
11/10/2015 4:44 pm
Living Alone


I have lived alone
been independent for two years
Is it true I really need someone
could I overcome my fears

As much as I like my independence
There's something I failed to see
The truth of my true dependence
Is that nobody really needs me.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 5:18 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Jesus, Jiminy. After reading this I almost want to ask you to move in with Lucy and I. Don't start packing - I said almost.

    But, I do like the way this is written.

    Fossil

I doubt anybody here could say anything to me that would impress me more than your comment...Thank you, Sir


Rocketship 79F
18566 posts
11/10/2015 5:40 pm

I think that many of us feel the same way!

Warm Hugssss~~~~


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 5:48 pm

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I think that many of us feel the same way!

    Warm Hugssss~~~~
It took me two years to figure that out...

The thought crossed my mind only yesterday. Sheez...It's amazing how insightfulness doesn't just happen.

Actually, I didn't decide write it, til I listen to the song
"You'll miss me when I gone" just about an hour ago.

Strange how things just happen so you can discover the truth. but you have to look for it, to find it.

Thank you for reading me.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 6:11 pm

fossil,

I used the wrong word.. I said impress....what I meant was...to let me feel good, about what I had written. It impressed me by the way it made me feel.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 6:18 pm

    Quoting  :

sorry maisie,

You may need to ask fossil what it means.

Two things..... first, I'm the one's that's needy. not that I need someone. I need to have someone need me.
Secondly, a dog is better suited to my needs.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
11/10/2015 6:19 pm

That's a bit sad. But dont believe your last line my friend. There are thousands of people who could need you if you placed yourself in their lives, even if only just to listen to them. God bless.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 6:31 pm

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    That's a bit sad. But dont believe your last line my friend. There are thousands of people who could need you if you placed yourself in their lives, even if only just to listen to them. God bless.
Oh yes,

It's the solution. For some people it's easy, for me it's not so easy.

It's my goal now, to put myself in peoples lives. Never thought of it before. It was always about me, then I discovered, it never was really about me.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
11/10/2015 6:45 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Oh yes,

    It's the solution. For some people it's easy, for me it's not so easy.

    It's my goal now, to put myself in peoples lives. Never thought of it before. It was always about me, then I discovered, it never was really about me.
It might not be easy if it's a new thing you are doing in this area. I only started myself about 8 months ago helping in rest homes with visitation. It took a few times to get to know each one, but then it was ok. They break into a big smile when they see me now. One cried as I left after my second visit to her thanking me so much for my time that I'd given to her.

So many lonely people are craving someone to talk to. I found that once I started it was hard to withold the avalanche of needs out there. I had to bite off just what I could chew or I'd burn out in no time. When you find your purpose life turns really around. Will pray you find your niche. God bless.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 6:49 pm

There are three differnet kinds of people, those who know, those who think they know, and those who know, they don't know.,
My story has been revealed to me. I never really knew how to love, or how to be a good friend.
Those who know how, this is so foreign to them that can't understand what it all means.
Those who know, they don't know how, understand completely
Those who think they know how, will need to discover the truth for themselves.
The truth is we reap what we sow.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 6:59 pm

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    It might not be easy if it's a new thing you are doing in this area. I only started myself about 8 months ago helping in rest homes with visitation. It took a few times to get to know each one, but then it was ok. They break into a big smile when they see me now. One cried as I left after my second visit to her thanking me so much for my time that I'd given to her.

    So many lonely people are craving someone to talk to. I found that once I started it was hard to withold the avalanche of needs out there. I had to bite off just what I could chew or I'd burn out in no time. When you find your purpose life turns really around. Will pray you find your niche. God bless.
Thank you,

I can tell by your story it wasn't that easy for you either, but you did it.
I thought for a moment that you may be one those people who take such things for granted. I know now that's not the case.

I must tell you, I'm not looking for concern. please do not be concerned for me.
I say things I say to be real and relevant in other peoples lives.
I can deal with mine, I only can hope and help others to deal with theirs..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 7:21 pm

It's important to me that everybody who reads this and understands doesn't put it on me. It not about me, it's about everybody like me.
If it makes you concerned, don't be concerned for me.
Be concerned for your neighbors, your friends, your relatives. The people you can make a difference in the lives. Those who can't or won't tell you, but can only show you.
I don't write these things, or anything else that I post here to say look at me. I say look at yourself and look at others. don't look at me.
I would not share myself here, if was just about me. I'm selfish like that.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
11/10/2015 7:26 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Thank you,

    I can tell by your story it wasn't that easy for you either, but you did it.
    I thought for a moment that you may be one those people who take such things for granted. I know now that's not the case.

    I must tell you, I'm not looking for concern. please do not be concerned for me.
    I say things I say to be real and relevant in other peoples lives.
    I can deal with mine, I only can hope and help others to deal with theirs..
Well I do get concerned for people, I have been through the mental health system here and some people say only a few words that give just a hint of their being suicidal, others make it easily known. I'm not saying you are, but it's hard to discern on the internet where anyone is really at sometimes as I'm sure you are well aware. When in your lines you said you really need someone, you had fears and nobody needed you I guess that sparked some 'warning bells' being where I've come from. I'm so glad you're ok and strong. Thanks for letting me know. Also it's very encouraging to see you looking to helping others, that's a mature outlook and a very honourable one. God bless.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
11/10/2015 8:21 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Self judgement can be either a tremendous awakening, Or a prelude to doom.
    There many people I have met that a self realization could be a doom to them. My parents for one, In their latter years I hoped the realization would not come. It would not be good for them. Realization of their base attitude and feelings would not be good.

    Their are many, that I would not choose to try and change for that reason.

    I don't push it. Self realization has to come from self desire to understand and to make changes from that realization. You can't make it happen or wish it would happen for someone else. You very much could regret, that which you would wish. There is a fine line between doing what's right and doing what's best.
You've given me a flashback to what my father used to say, and it's a saying that's been around a while, "To change the world you have to start with yourself." Ourself is the only one in our power to change when it comes to the crunch. But with this self realization you mention. I think the time it's negative is if we've lived a bad life, or an evil one. Living a good life gives satisfaction and hope. At least to me it does .....

Doing what's right and what's best triggered an old quote, not sure who said it, but it goes something like, "Sometimes the truth has to be protected by many lies." I'm not sure I'd want to be in that kind of a postion.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 8:21 pm

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    Well I do get concerned for people, I have been through the mental health system here and some people say only a few words that give just a hint of their being suicidal, others make it easily known. I'm not saying you are, but it's hard to discern on the internet where anyone is really at sometimes as I'm sure you are well aware. When in your lines you said you really need someone, you had fears and nobody needed you I guess that sparked some 'warning bells' being where I've come from. I'm so glad you're ok and strong. Thanks for letting me know. Also it's very encouraging to see you looking to helping others, that's a mature outlook and a very honourable one. God bless.
Self judgement can be either a tremendous awakening, Or a prelude to doom.
There many people I have met that a self realization could be a doom to them. My parents for one, In their latter years I hoped the realization would not come. It would not be good for them. Realization of their base attitude and feelings would not be good.

Their are many, that I would not choose to try and change for that reason.

I don't push it. Self realization has to come from self desire to understand and to make changes from that realization. You can't make it happen or wish it would happen for someone else. You very much could regret, that which you would wish. There is a fine line between doing what's right and doing what's best.

We differ in belief but do not differ in outcome. you believe that God can do it for people. I believe God is the easy way out for people. It doesn't matter who's right. It only matters that they do it.
You may believe that someone can't do it without God. I choose to try to do it without God. You may think that I have to fail. Fail, I might, but it's my life to fail as I please.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2015 8:44 pm

Doing what's right and what's best triggered an old quote, not sure who said it, but it goes something like, "Sometimes the truth has to be protected by many lies." I'm not sure I'd want to be in that kind of a postion
herm,

The truth need not be protected, It is not the truth, that one must be concerned about. It's stuffing the truth down someone's throat, that is what turns the truth into a lie. Trying to protect the truth with a lie. The truth need not be protected.
and God need not be protected.


bijou624

11/11/2015 1:16 am

I'm no relationship expert that's for sure, but a relationship built on need might not work out for the best. Someone who needs you would feel nice, but what happens if they don't need you anymore? There's all kinds of 'needs', but for the most part needs are temporary, so being with someone because you need them or they need you might not be the best for either party.

Maybe it's better to be with someone who doesn't need you for anything, they just like you.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/11/2015 5:31 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    I'm no relationship expert that's for sure, but a relationship built on need might not work out for the best. Someone who needs you would feel nice, but what happens if they don't need you anymore? There's all kinds of 'needs', but for the most part needs are temporary, so being with someone because you need them or they need you might not be the best for either party.

    Maybe it's better to be with someone who doesn't need you for anything, they just like you.
The idea, it's an overwhelming need makes what you say correct.
But I think for most of it's not a need we understand. It doesn't overwhelm us, in fact we don't even think about.
I just think there's a difference between living alone, being lonely, and being alone.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/11/2015 5:44 am

    Quoting  :

Vec darlin

The ol pine tree has gotten older, and so have we
I can not walk the distance, I cannot find the road
My mind is now the traveler, it the way it has to be
It sheds light round the bend, and lightens the load.

It's so good to hear from you...I hope your well.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/11/2015 5:48 am

    Quoting  :

Yes, life is truly a two way street, That we view with a one-way mind.


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
11/11/2015 11:27 am

If someone needs us, then we have power over them. Some may find that gratifying. Personally I don't care for that much responsibility.

That's why I raised my kids to grow strong and self-sufficient. For me to keep them dependent upon me is both selfish and too much work.

I hope that people love me, but I like to see them drawn to me by choice more than need.

GBU,

Gavin


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
11/11/2015 11:15 pm

I agree with Roseslady


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/12/2015 6:35 am

    Quoting  :

We all have needs. Whether we know it or not
No one can deny that statement. Don't even try or that will be your need.

Relationships needs vary from person to person, I assume that depends on lot of things. Most people's relationship needs are not thought out, I can pretty much guarantee that about men. Gender needs are different.

Lulu,
It seems your life involved dealing with the needs of a lot of different people. Lulu who's been dealing with your needs?
I think when someone has a reason to feel that someone is taking advantage that can evolve into a desire to not allow that to happen.
Most men, really don't think about your needs, it's usually just a house over your head, food in the kitchen, and babies in the bedroom. That the extent of a man idea of your needs. Emotional needs or desires don't even enter the picture, Those to men are your problem. Can't understand them, won't' deal with them. Men basically go through life looking for someone to fill their emotional needs and desires but never once think about doing it for someone else.
Anyway, my point is, if you choose to call that taking advantage, If you choose to look for in men, Then you'll always find it.

In general, non-gender outlook, your agreement with Gavin is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't agree with it. Their is an assumption that if you see others as needy, you can't help but think they are trying to take advantage of you.

We all have needs........


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/12/2015 7:06 am

lulu,

Think about this statement your made, what it means, what it says

..........But it wasn't long before I allowed myself to feel liberated.

liberate from what...filling other peoples needs?
was that your purpose, to fill others needs, and you became tired of doing that?
Was filling someone's needs, a duty, a job?

Are you now liberated from ever having to do it again?

This is the opposite of my poem, I want to feel needed, you never want to feel needed again.
I never realized my need to be needed
You realized it......way too much.
We were both wrong.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/12/2015 8:07 am

In the bigger picture it's about giving. What is giving?

There are two different views for me....I live under both, I am not immune to acting on it the wrong way.

My idealistic view is that giving is the only thing, in your doing, that gives back without conditions.

In reality giving is measured by what someone gives back. In reality giving does not stand on it's own. It can be looked at in the smallest form of a simple thank you, or to the greater expectation you always should get back more than you give.

The realization of why you give, the purpose of your giving, and the expectations from your giving. All tend to negate the idealistic view of what giving really is. . Justification outside yourself is not giving. if you can't understand the idealistic view, if you can't appreciate just the doing, if your expectations outweigh your desire.........If you can't feel that, and then you do it..don't call it giving.

PS... I have same the attitude about love, it's in the giving of love, that one actually gets love. No other conditions need apply..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/12/2015 5:39 pm

It's about balance.

Being self aware is great, self discovery is great. But it is a neverending story that needs balance with what I call the meaning of life. , I do not want to become so self aware, that I don't become aware or become too aware of everyone else. I never think there's a difference between the aware me and the unaware someone else. We don't become who we're suppose to be, we already are who we suppose to be and that could be aware, unaware, and even overly aware. Not for me to judge.
I am who I'm suppose to be, the balance and the meaning of life is everybody is who they're suppose to be too. There is no better or worse.
You have described a need for the person you'd like to be with.
I say bullpucky. Tell me all you want about the kind of person you don't want to be with, that's a choice. Who you end up being with, is not so much a choice.
It's the nature of both becoming aware and self discovery.
Hey if you're already there, good luck with that.
If you're already there, there is no balance.