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MrsJoe 76F
17382 posts
7/5/2016 8:33 pm

Heck no, I don't want a theocracy. And I agree with your blog. You stated it well.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/6/2016 12:41 am

Where are you going to get these "virtuous people"?
It all depends on what you consider virtuous, doesn't it?
Are there none at all in your Government?
Will they include both Conservatives and Liberals?
Will they include atheists and other ideologies?
Or will they believe only as you do?

Did you really think your blog through?


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
7/6/2016 2:54 am

I'm not American but I'll throw my 2 cents worth in. A Theocracy would only breed Tyrants, didnt work in the past with the Catholic Church and it's raising its head again ..... The only Theocracy that would work would be if God came down and run it Himself. He'll do that in the Millennial reign anyway, and with a rod of iron Bible says. But dont put any man as the head of a Theocracy, would be a disaster. Popes are a case point, lately they are saying even more heretical stuff. Look at the millions the Vatican Bank have while poor people starve. What about feed the hungry, orphan & look after widows etc? There's a few Viet Vets need a hand as well ... I could go on but I'll get off my soap box.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


bijou624

7/6/2016 6:03 am

That mean God the Father or Jesus, or Buddha, or Gaia, or Shiva, or the freakin door knob if it works for you.

Buddha is not a god or a person that Buddhists worship. Anyone can be Buddha. It just means that you are enlightened.


MrsJoe 76F
17382 posts
7/6/2016 9:58 am

    Quoting  :

It's not that it isn't read through, it is intentionally misunderstood and twisted to a different way of thinking that the way it was written.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
7/6/2016 11:29 am

As a Christian, I follow Jesus on this point. He wanted no part of government when He walked the earth. I think He knew how humans would become abusive with it if His teachings became a government institution.

GBU


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
7/6/2016 11:31 am

    Quoting  :

I'm not so sure the ones making such claims actually believe it. I think they know better but are just trying to distort the truth to mislead others.

GBU,

Gavin


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
7/7/2016 12:07 am

    Quoting  :

Some do it because they want to be recognized as one of (what they perceive to be) the "IN" crowd. (U know, this way they get to sit at the same table as the cool kids when they are young, and get invited to all the good cocktail parties when they are older.)

And some do it because they seek fame and/or power.

And some do it because it helps them turn a profit if they can fool enough people into thinking they are the "good" guys, especially if their financial interests stand to benefit or lose by the outcomes of an election.

GBU,

Gavin


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/7/2016 12:21 am

Dan, you have said that you want virtuous people to run your country/government.

On the face of it, I agree with that statement, surely that's what we all wish for.
The sad thing is that all of the people in government have actually been voted for
by "we the people". That is a fact we all have to live with, whether we like it, or not.
We all have to take some responsibility if we have voted them in.
At our ages, we have voted many times and never got it right for everyone... partly because that's an impossibility anyway .,,but, partly because we have failed to recognise virtuous candidates to vote for. Also Some may be just what is looked for and needed, but once they get into the huge political machine, find they have to become part of the system or fade away. Politicians are, of necessity, liars at the very least. All of them...and that's true of any government.

So, tell me Dan...how are you going to recognise those virtuous people? And how can you insert them into a corrupt political system and change it?

You think a corrupt government would just sit back and lose their power?
Not a snowball's chance in hell!

The more the people blame each other for making what they see as "wrong choices in voting" the more the wealthy and the politicians rub their hands.


MrsJoe 76F
17382 posts
7/7/2016 6:55 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    Dan, you have said that you want virtuous people to run your country/government.

    On the face of it, I agree with that statement, surely that's what we all wish for.
    The sad thing is that all of the people in government have actually been voted for
    by "we the people". That is a fact we all have to live with, whether we like it, or not.
    We all have to take some responsibility if we have voted them in.
    At our ages, we have voted many times and never got it right for everyone... partly because that's an impossibility anyway .,,but, partly because we have failed to recognise virtuous candidates to vote for. Also Some may be just what is looked for and needed, but once they get into the huge political machine, find they have to become part of the system or fade away. Politicians are, of necessity, liars at the very least. All of them...and that's true of any government.

    So, tell me Dan...how are you going to recognise those virtuous people? And how can you insert them into a corrupt political system and change it?

    You think a corrupt government would just sit back and lose their power?
    Not a snowball's chance in hell!

    The more the people blame each other for making what they see as "wrong choices in voting" the more the wealthy and the politicians rub their hands.
I agree with what you said here, but we still have to keep trying, don't we? The ballot box is our "guns" and we have to revolt against the corruption in our governments.
Perhaps a start would be to vote against any incumbent who has been there for more than two terms? The really bad part is that so many believe we need change in Washington, but don't want to vote against THEIR congressman or senator.
We can't give up, so we will keep talking about it, and voting for as long as we can.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/7/2016 9:53 am

Voting is not an easy thing to do, It takes so much thinking before we can make a decision. So many politicians (from all parties) lie to us, or make promises they later find can't be kept because they have no choice but to be part of the system. So, too many people just take the easy way out and vote the same way their parents did,(and for the same party every time)... and then wonder why nothing changes. When enough folk do that...or vote just to keep the other party out, politics and government have no way to go but stagnate into a stinking mess.
Having just two political parties causes a never ending circle of bitterness and strife between voters over whichever one is in power. It splits the people in half... instead of uniting them.

Maybe it would make life a whole lot easier if America had more than just two parties, say a "middle of the road" party.
My country ain't perfect, not by a long shot, never that, but I've never experienced the huge amount of hatred I see displayed in SFF.
Especially the hatred for liberals...in my experience we don't have anything near that level for any party.

We can't see into politicians minds so I vote with my conscience...best any of us can do.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/7/2016 11:41 am

I understand that Dan...but people have said that they will be voting for him to keep Hillary out. If they do, then surely they deserve what they get?

You call Trump scum, (and I'd agree with that) but someone must have voted for him? Americans seem to be impressed with his so-called "business acumen", here in Scotland we are totally unimpressed. Or do I have it wrong? Did he buy his way in? How many American politicians do that?

Call me what you wish, but I think that's the fault of "we the people" The two parties pit the people against each other and while they're all hating each other, the government gets away with murder.

No amount of voting will change that. But a change in how people vote might?


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/7/2016 11:31 pm

    Quoting  :

Oh sorry, seems I mistook your words. You were actually saying that you believe Trump to be one of those "virtuous people"?
Are you serious?


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/9/2016 12:28 am

So, his disgusting mockery of Stephen Hawking and others was just a media lie?
It's all lies? All the racist crap he has said on camera too?

Sure it is!

And, what's his daughter's religious beliefs got to do with anything?